Re: About God

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On Mar 9, 10:08 am, tadchem <tadc...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Mar 9, 8:31 am, Peter <Poakfi...@xxxxxxx> wrote:

Some physicists have difficulty conceiving the existence of God: an
infinite, immaterial being, who had no beginning and will have no end.
They find this hard to believe, but we have three examples of things
that appear to have exactly the same characteristics, and that we
usually have no problem accepting: Space, time, and energy: Space and
time, we realize, could not have had a beginning, and cannot have an
end: they are necessarily infinite, and, evidently, they are not
material. And physics teaches us that energy is conserved: it cannot
be created, and cannot be destroyed. Whatever amount of energy exists
now in the universe, must have always existed, and will continue to
exist forever: it is infinite. And energy in its radiant form
(photons) is not material, it has no mass, weight, or volume. Although
we cannot see it (we can only feel its effects), it affects powerfully
everything it touches. In other words, it has characteristics similar
to those of God.

The above arguments will probably not be accepted by some people who
have made a religion of not believing in anything, except atheism,
which is silly. It is easy to dismiss the existence of God, but doing
so, we are left with the difficult problem of explaining our own
sometime painful existence.

"A Brief Dialog on God," by Thaddeus Stout (1969)

Q: "Does God exist?"
A: "If you think so."

I will take the liberty here of expanding on Stout's observation:

Q: "What do you mean by that?"
A: "I mean that it depends on what YOU personally mean by the word
'God,' and whether you personally accept that meaning as descriptive
of something that exists."
Q: "Are you being evasive?"
A: "I am saying that 'God' is a highly idiosyncratic term, perhaps the
most idiosyncratic term in all human language. No two people agree
completely on its meaning. Therefore any detailed analysis of that
meaning is itself meaningful only to one person."
Q: "Then are you trying to be scientific about God?"
A: "Not at all. Science requires replicability and independence from
the observer. I am asserting that neither can be achieved in any
discussion of 'God'. One simply cannot be scientific about 'God' in
the absence of the logical requirements of science."

Tom Davidson
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God is a spirit. Science, which deals with matter and material things,
is not the appropriate tool to investigate about things in the
spiritual realm. The spiritual realm is clearly in a different
dimension. We had no way to know about God if He had not revealed
Himself. But there is ample historical evidence of His revelation.

Why does he only reveal himself to uneducated sheppards
and peasant's daughters?

Dirk Vdm- Hide quoted text -

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That has not been the case at all. God has revealed Himself to many
people: extraordinary leaders, like Abraham

- a shepherd -

and Moses

- another shepherd -

, which, of
course, could not have had PhDs, because there no universities at the
time.

Indeed, at the time there was on sheep.

But he has also revealed Himself to people with great talent and
education, and many of them have been made saints, like St. Thomas
Aquinas, St Augustine, and many others.

a priest, another priest, and many other priests... all shepherds,
just like I told you.

Dirk Vdm

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