Re: Rigorous definition of Planck's Constant


"Eric Gisse" <jowr.pi@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Apr 19, 4:50 am, "Tom Potter" <tdp1...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>"PD" <TheDraperFam...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>On Apr 15, 6:12 am, Eric Gisse <jowr...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> On Apr 15, 2:36 am, "Tom Potter" <tdp1...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>> > "Eric Gisse" <jowr...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message

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>> > On Apr 12, 1:47 am, "Tom Potter" <tdp1...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>> > > "Randy Poe" <poespam-t...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message

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>> > > > On Apr 11, 9:33 am, "Tom Potter" <tdp1...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > > >> But I have an open mind Sammy.
>> > > >> Explain a few of the Jackson boilerplate "problem sets",
>> > > >> and tell me how folks can use them to
>> > > >> put bread on the table, buy cigarettes (For Jeff Relf),
>> > > >> pay the rent, get sex, build bridges and structures,
>> > > >> create better software or integrated circuits,
>> > > >> cure disease, or end war and violence.

>> > > > Simple: A lot of companies need to know about
>> > > > propagation of electromagnetic radiation, or what happens
>> > > > when that radiation hits various objects, and they
>> > > > pay people money to do those calculations, or
>> > > > develop simulations to do those calculations, or
>> > > > they pay big bucks to buy software products that do
>> > > > those calculations from other people who have paid
>> > > > people big bucks to write those software products.

>> > > > As a ubiquitous example, your cell phone company
>> > > > is concerned with those kinds of calculations on
>> > > > a daily basis in figuring out where to put up their
>> > > > towers, how many they need, how much power they
>> > > > need and how tall they need to be.

>> > > > Your cell phone manufacturer is using those kinds
>> > > > of calculations to design their device.

>> > > Randy,
>> > > rather than make an open loop editorial assertion,
>> > > why don't you demonstrate how some
>> > > Jackson boilerplate "problem sets"
>> > > are used to design a digital communications system?

>> > > Considering that the frequencies used in cell phone systems,
>> > > are affected to buildings and other structures,
>> > > as are street lights, are you suggesting that
>> > > the folks that place street lights
>> > > also use Jackson boilerplate "problem sets"?

>> > > Do they redo all of their calculations
>> > > when a new structure goes up in the area?

>> > -- Why is the salesman trying to discuss a graduate electrodynamics
>> > -- textbook in regards to a subject he has never studied?

>> > Although "Eric Gisse" is a high school grad
>> > ( At least he claims to be one. ),

>> > I am surprised to see that he does not comprehend
>> > that the people who decide where to place
>> > street lights and cell phone antennas
>> > do not use Jackson boilerplate "problem sets",

>> > but place street lights where light is needed,

>> > and place cell phone antennas,
>> > where coverage is needed,
>> > consistent with zoning and the cost of leasing
>> > the high points where the antennas can be placed.

>> > If "Eric Gisse" or anyone else wants to
>> > go into the business of renting antenna space,
>> > I suggest that they use the following as a guide,
>> > rather than Jackson boilerplate "problem sets".

>> > "A rough idea of a commercial antenna space rental rate
>> > is about a dollar per foot of height, per antenna, per
>> > month."http://www.arrl.org/news/features/2007/12/29/1/

>> > As you can see,
>> > if you built a three hundred foot tall structure
>> > that could support fifty antennas,
>> > and there was a market in the area,
>> > you could gross of about $15,000.00 per month.

>> > You can't get this kind of information from
>> > Jackson boilerplate "problem sets".

>> Now how do you design the antenna? Suddenly Jackson is actually
>> relevant to the discussion again.

>No, according to Potter, you put one up and then you take it down to
>make an adjustment before putting it up again, and then you take it
>down again to make another adjustment before putting it up again,
>repeating as necessary until the performance is optimized. This is
>what Potter calls "on the job training" and follows his general
>principle that iterative tweaking is just as efficient a way of
>getting things done as informed design, because the latter requires an
>education in principles he considers a waste and because the former is
>at least being applied to the activity that is relevant.

>I have to say that I'm relieved that Potter is no longer involved with
>any commercial interest that might affect me, as his model for
>technological development and implementation is a bit frightening.
>Perhaps this is why he stuck to sales rather than being on the product
>development or business planning side.

It is interesting to see that PD
thinks that the way to design antennas
is to use Jackson boilerplate "problem sets",

then if that doesn't work,
to use more Jackson boilerplate "problem sets",
before putting it up again,
repeating as necessary until the performance is optimized.

I suggest to PD,
that if he ever has to design an antenna,
to take a look at the following web sites,
before he uses Jackson boilerplate "problem sets".

www.hamuniverse.com/antennas.html

http://www.ve3sqb.com/

http://ti.arc.nasa.gov/projects/esg/research/antenna.htm

http://www.smeter.net/antennas/antennas.php

How do you think those antennas are designed, crackpotter?


I might point out that I was in Radio Interference
for a couple of years, testing cryptographic equipment
for radiated and conducted signals that might
permit the unencrypted information to bypass
the cryptographic computer,

Does crackpotter know how an antenna works? Does crackpotter even
understand what a radiation multipole moment is? Does crackpotter know
the difference between a cylindrical and a plane wave? Does
crackpotter know what a dipole is?

and rather than work a lot of "problem sets", we,
believe it or not,
and bear in mind, that this was a TOP SECRET
project that could affect national security,
we actually ran tests!!!!

I can't tell what is more stupid...

Is it your endless whining about "problem sets" ?
Is it your stupidity in the belief that because you tested some
equipment many years back that it makes you qualified to whine about
antenna theory?
Or is it the stupidity of talking about something you claim was TOP
SECRET on a public medium?

I am very sad to see that I have
Eric Gisse whining about my posts

responding to the ridiculous suggestion that
I should work on some
Jackson boilerplate "problem sets",

and his jealousy of the fact I have
a pretty good background in working with
antennas over the frequency range
from 15KHz to 1GHz.

I might point out to Gisse, that when one measures
electric field strength, one must take
the gain of the antenna into acount, in order to
come up with a useable volts per meter measurement.

And I am surprised to see that Eric Gisse,
who claims to be a high school grad,

is not aware that great strides have been
made in encryption since the advent
of the microprocessor,

and that all of the old cryptographic
equipment could be beaten using
a Commodore 64.

I suggest that if Eric Gisse
wants to understand more about
encryption, he should do a search on
( "public encryption" key ),

I must point out,
that although encryption has made great advances,
one must still protect against the leakage
of the un-encrypted message via radiation.
and conduction through the power lines.

--
Tom Potter

http://www.geocities.com/tdp1001/index.html
http://notsocrazyideas.blogspot.com
http://groups.msn.com/PotterPhotos



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