Re: The delusions of the idle.


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On Apr 21, 5:18 am, "Tom Potter" <tdp1...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> On Apr 20, 2:05 am, "Tom Potter" <tdp1...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> "n...@xxxxxxx" <Alien8...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message

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>> > On Apr 19, 1:11 pm, "Androcles" <Headmas...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> --
>> >> This message is brought to you by Androcles
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>> >> "hanson" <han...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message

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>> >> |
>> >> | Mark L. Fergerson"n...@xxxxxxx" <Alien8...@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >> | [snipped mercifully Mark's enormous prolix and self-incriminating
>> >> | tripe of hatred, self-hate & bigotry, which Marks concludes
>> >> with]...
>> >> | Potter's usage of the term "folks" is also revealing; apparently
>> >> it
>> >> | means "victims of Jews". Does Potter thus imply that Jews are
>> >> | not "folks"? --- Mark L. Fergerson
>> >> | >
>> >> | hanson worte:
>> >> | ahahaha... AHAHAHAHA... Hey, Potter, Fergi wants to hear
>> >> | AGAIN your fine sermon about that "German people are the
>> >> | most moral, intelligent and productive people the world has
>> >> | ever known".

>> >> How come they speak English and not German in North America
>> >> if the krauts and kikes are so fuckin' productive? Sheesh,
>> >> there's even more frogs and diegos than krauts in Quebec and
>> >> Mexico.

>> >> Fergi can't get enough of hearing that. He needs
>> >> | a double dose since he is German-Portuguese, only 50% German.
>> >> | You are a fine teacher, Potter, but Fergi is unfortunately not
>> >> the
>> >> | brightest bulb amongst all the Jewish students you've ever
>> >> taught.
>> >> | Carry on and thanks for the laughs, guys!... AHAHAHAHA...
>> >> | ahahaha... ahahahanson

>> > My killfile seems to have a curious defect in that it doesn't
>> > present posts from its inmates for the first few screens, then it
>> > shows me some of them. This is the first of your posts I've seen in
>> > quite a while, Androcles; how the hell are you? Say, mind if I
>> > address
>> > Hans' son's bull*** here (since you considerately quoted it) rather
>> > than bothering to reply to him directly? Thanks in advance.

>> > I'm not at all surprised by what Hans' son wrote. His anti-Semitism
>> > is legendary. Now it forces him to fixate on the fact that I'm "only
>> > 50% German".

>> > I temporarily freed Hans' son from my killfile and looked back a
>> > bit
>> > in this thread and see that Hans' son calls me a "mongrel", a
>> > favorite
>> > derogatory term used by White Supremacist NAZI wannabes.

>> > Personally I find it hilarious. I quite happily agree, I AM a
>> > "mongrel". What the idiot racist Hans' son fails to comprehend is
>> > that
>> > all six billion of us are the exact same kind of "mongrel"; there is
>> > no such thing as a "pure blood". If there were any such thing it
>> > would
>> > not be interfertile with the rest of the species.

>> > (That is of course not my opinion but verifiable fact which any
>> > country boy knows.)

>> > Where Hans' son gets his bull*** about how I'm bigoted escapes me;
>> > I've demonstrated that Potter's charge is false by Potter's own
>> > standards, but mere logic doesn't bother Hans' son, which shouldn't
>> > be
>> > surprising. White Supremacist NAZI wannabes aren't known for their
>> > expertise in logic, so don't expect a rational reply from him to
>> > your
>> > point about Quebec and Mexico.

>> > I wouldn't bother pointing out to him that China is rapidly closing
>> > the productivity gap; it's currently number two in per capita
>> > productivity after Germany after a much shorter period of
>> > industrialization.

>> > It'll be tons of fun to watch Potter and Hans' son tie themselves
>> > in
>> > knots trying to avoid explaining how those Chinese "untermenschen"
>> > manage to surpass Germany when that happens in the very near future.

>> It is sad to see that Mark L. Fergerson
>> is bent completely out of shape,

> It is sad to see Potter continue his lies.

>> because I pointed out that Jews
>> have institutionized bigotry,

> Potter continues to make unsupported claims and call them facts.

>> and that he is a hard core bigot,

> Potter continues his hypocritical attacks on me with charges
> falsified by his own chosen definitions and reasoning.

> Below, Potter writes:

> 'The definition of "bigot" is:
> "A prejudiced person who is intolerant
> of any opinions differing from his own."'

> Potter refuses to state his opinions clearly, hence Potter cannot
> claim they have not been tolerated. Hence Potter is not a victim of
> bigotry and I am specifically not guilty of it.

> Potter is hereby challenged to clearly state his opinions that he
> alleges I have not tolerated and cite specifically how I have
> demonstrated my alleged intolerance of them. If he refuses he is
> morally obliged to publicly withdraw the charge or be demonstrated to
> not behave in a MORAL fashion; i. e. be exposed as a blatant liar and
> hypocrite.

>> because he attacks messengers
>> with lies, distortions and half-truths,

> Potter continues to expand his hypocritical, false attacks on me.

> Potter is hereby challenged to quote me lying and provide
> independent proof that I lied. If he cannot he is morally obliged to
> retract the accusation or be demonstrated to not behave in a MORAL
> fashion; i. e. be exposed as a blatant liar and hypocrite.

> Potter is hereby challenged to quote me making distortions and
> provide independent proof of what he claims I distorted and how I
> distorted it. If he cannot he is morally obliged to retract the
> accusation or be demonstrated to not behave in a MORAL fashion; i. e.
> be exposed as a blatant liar and hypocrite.

> Potter is hereby challenged to quote me stating a "half-truth". If
> he cannot he is morally obliged to retract the accusation or be
> demonstrated to not behave in a MORAL fashion; i. e. be exposed as a
> blatant liar and hypocrite.

>> rather than address messages
>> in a rational, intelligent, MORAL way.

> Potter makes such addressing impossible by refusing to specify what
> parts of his claims are his opinions and beliefs so the rest can be
> subjected to attempts at rational scientific falsification. Only such
> attempts can reveal which claims are true and which false.

> As for MORAL considerations Potter still refuses to discuss his
> chosen standard of right and wrong for purposes of comparison.

> It is evident that he does not REALLY consider it "right" to address
> messages rather than messengers, or he would have practiced what he
> preaches by simply responding directly to my request that he name a
> single Jew he could describe as "good", or doing something "right".
> Rather than do so he has viciously attacked MY intelligence and
> character, demonstrating HIS hypocrisy.

>> Note that he makes a great effort to label
>> me as a "White Supremacist"

> Potter is hereby challenged to provide a quote of me calling him a
> White Supremacist. If he cannot he is morally obliged to withdraw the
> accusation or be demonstrated to not behave in a MORAL fashion; i. e.
> be exposed as a blatant liar and hypocrite.

> Perhaps Potter equates my pointing out his association with the self-
> professed White Supremacists who operate jewwatch.com and
> adamsbible.com with calling him that term. He is hereby challenged to
> disassociate himself from them. If he refuses he is morally obliged to
> withdraw the accusation or be demonstrated to not behave in a MORAL
> fashion; i. e. be exposed as a blatant liar and hypocrite.

>> Also note how Mark L. Fergerson tries to make the case that
>> it would bother me if China,
>> or for that matter Mexico, India, Spain, or Iran
>> became the most productive nation in the world.

>> As a true believer in truth, honesty, justice,
>> and equity, I believe that the rewards should go
>> to the folks who work hard and produce,
>> and not to a particular race, religion or nation,

> Yet Potter specifically celebrates the fact that Germany currently
> holds that position.

>> and certainly not to bigots who lie, distort, and con.

> Like Tom Potter.

>> The definition of "bigot" is:
>> "A prejudiced person who is intolerant
>> of any opinions differing from his own."

> Potter refuses to state his opinions clearly, hence Potter cannot
> claim they have not been tolerated. Hence Potter is not a victim of
> bigotry and I am specifically not guilty of it.

>> To read the stories of a few of the many folks
>> who have been victims of Institutionalized bigotry,
>> and bigots like Mark L. Fergerson,

> Hence Potter is a liar.

>> visit the web site below.

>> <http://www.zundelsite.org/english/debate/victims/index.html>

> Still waiting for any supporting evidence for the "stories".

It is interesting to see that Mark L. Fergerson and his ilk
get laws passed making it a crime for folks
to question the "Holocaust Industry's version of
the so-called "Holocaust"

Apparently the real "Tom Potter" found time to return to this thread
long enough to post more evidence of his hypocrisy.

(I'm sure I don't need to remind Potter of the definition of
"hypocrisy").

His hypocrisy is of course demonstrated by his further assaults
against my character rather than addressing the substance of my post,
while he alleges I have done the same thing (and then fails to provide
cites to support his allegation).

Specifically, he baselessly accuses me of interfering in the
legislative process of a country where I do not reside and of which I
am not a citizen, and of associating with those who allegedly have
done so.

If he has any independent confirmation of this accusation he is
hereby challenged to present it or be revealed as a hypocrite and
liar.

It is also interesting that of all the content of my post Potter
quoted, the only thing Potter is willing to address is his ongong
failure to provide independent verification of his claims. This kind
of behavior is emerging as a pattern in his posts. He makes claims,
then fails to substantiate them.

When this is pointed out he complains that his character is being
assassinated, then he attacks the character of those who point out his
failure. He also fails to provide any basis for his character attacks.

yet here he is
demanding proof that folks
have been victims of Institutionalized Bigotry,

Perhaps Potter should not waste time presenting "stories"
unverifiable by physical evidence to support his claims. If he has
_any_ independently verifiable information to present I encourage him
to do so. Sci.physics is not a suitable forum for presentation of
"Conspiracy Theories" that include as proof the claim that the
theorists' proof is being suppressed.

when it is clear that Jews have institutionalized Bigotry,
and use it every day to "Jimmy Carter" and "Mel Gibson"
politicians, companies, and individuals,
who make public TRUTHFUL statements
that Jews don't want the public exposed to.

Surely Potter is aware that merely repeating a claim does not
substantiate it.

Mark L. Fergerson makes a good point
when he points out that considering that
Jews have come into conflict with
all of their neighbors throughout history,

and have been central to, and profited from,
numerous conflicts and wars,

the fact that they have an enormous media presence,
and use it to promote the idea
that Jews are "virtuous victims"
flies against all evidence.

Mark L. Fergerson point that
"merely repeating a claim does not substantiate it.",

also applies to the Urban Legend that
General Relativity was essential to the GPS System,
and to the phony claim that it is a useful model of reality.

I suggest to Mark L. Fergerson and his ilk,
that passing laws that make it a crime
to discuss certain issues like the so-called Holocaust,
is far, far more destructive to society
than race/religion motivated bigots
constantly " repeating a claim <in order to> substantiate it."

--
Tom Potter

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