Re: What the hell is going on? Who is in charge here???



On Apr 27, 10:57 pm, BradGuth <bradg...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Perhaps pretending there’s a Semitic God in charge of everything,
sounds about right.

Before the supposed singular BB, there was supposedly just our one and
only SMBH (aka God fart or Semitic Massive Black Hole) surrounded in
all possible directions by less than one atom per cubic light year,
and without any other photon or graviton anywhere in sight. (aka ideal
faith-based mindset)

OOPS!, talk about cosmic shrinkage and having another one of those bad
God days.

Images of galactic encounters, of the worse possible kind. (a series
of God fart resets, as recorded by team Hubble)

The best of 59 examples of cosmic hell busting lose, not that many
other than these relatively old Hubble images of the anti-big-bang
exist. Each of these galaxies has a fairly horrific gravity/tidal
radius of several thousand light years (perhaps at least as great as
64r, if not 128r), not to mention the mutual attraction of whatever a
pair or more of these bad boys has to work with, whereas you might
like to further reconsider the mutual gravity/tidal binding grasp of
two or more such encounters is perhaps worth 4X the individual tidal
radius. (hard to avoid gravity, especially when it’s the only game in
town)

http://www.sciam.com/gallery_directory.cfm?photo_id=8153DC82-A24D-3D0....

http://www6.comcast.net/news/science/galaxies/slideshow/view/1/

What is the cosmic gravity/tidal binding reach of our Milky Way?
(1024r?)

Try to remember that our moon and Earth represents a mutual tidal
grasp of better than 60r, and our Sun/Pluto tidal reach is obviously
worth 10,060r, not to mention whatever Sedna might suggest. Obviously
if the mutual tidal radius wasn’t there to behold, we’d be losing our
grip on such wussy little items as Pluto and Sedna.
. – Brad Guth




Well regarding the concept of God, rather than say a black hole, we
can use the analogy of a giant conscious supercomputer.

Now, its a philosophical argument regarding if the universe is a
holographic projection or is made of particles waves or quantum foam,
but lets say for the sake of argument that it is what it is, as long
as it follows the laws of physics.
And as long as it follows those laws, and the math rules,then it is a
stage, and we are but players on it.
Not unlike a simulator that we ourselves could create.
Since we have examined our environment, and mimicked its behaviors and
created computers and simulators.
Now our simulated people, we would give behaviors, like the computer
game The Sims.
Our universe would be made of programming and have an operating
system.
Sims do not have free will but lets say that given sufficient
complexity, and sufficient randomness and sufficient choices, that our
physical universe has, free will can exist.
That which we refer to as free will is where we get to make choices.
The software in our brain, gives us general ideas of what good choices
are, we live we learn we strive for things, and we make choices and we
call that free will because we get to choose from a selection of
things.

But our brains are still software driven. And the universe obeys laws,
that are mechanical in nature.
On the macro scale.
Just as conscious awareness arises out of a neural network, the macro
universe arises out of smeared out interacting waves as per Maxwell
that originate on the quantum level.

So there is no reason to believe that the universe itself, is not a
conscious computer.

Now then when we say conscious computer we tend to think of nuts and
bolts and hardware, but at one point, it may be, that there is a
consciousness out there, outside of space and time, so large, that its
thought, is creating the universe in real time.

Just as we can imagine with our minds eye a nice summer day by the
lake, it can imagine a universe.

Now the complexity, is not as great as you think, because as far as we
can tell, the earth is the only place where complex life forms exist.
Now that is probably not the case but that is what we have proof of.
That this is it. The rest of the universe of planets and suns and dust
and moons, is not very complex. It follows simple rules, simple laws
of physics.
Life however, and the intricacies of nature is highly complex.
Yet still, we can imagine a summers day in the country, and paint that
picture from memory or from pure imagination, even with our tiny
brain, our tiny consciousness.
So it is not so difficult to imagine a larger consciousness able to
simply think, or imagine, this reality into existence, and that
pantheistic view would be some people's view of God or a creator.
Which would have existed forever, but time has no meaning outside of
the universe of atoms.
Outside of time and space there is no reason to suggest that things
could not exist simply in the same state, without ever wearing out or
wearing down, hence no reason to say that time affects them at all.
If God was a conscious entity, who was imagining a universe, and he
imagined a hand full of lesser Gods, to build conscious computers and
do whatever, the universe would appear like this as we see it.
Virtual machines, within virtual machines. Essentially.
One large one as the stage. And then within that real of matter,
conscious computers to house consciousness. Life itself being merely a
chain reaction. A highly complex one, but DNA is a self replicating
molecule forever in a state of chain reaction as are all life
processes.
With sufficient computer power, and sufficient knowledge of atoms and
how they interact, you could create that initial reaction, to create
life, and then build on it, through trial and error or evolution,
until you have a suitable organism, to house basic simple
consciousness, then evolve that animal's brain further, to be able to
receive a second layer of virtual machine, with higher level software,
and that would be sentience.
However before there was ever a realm of matter, the universe of mind
would have experimented by thought without this fixed set of laws.
There might have been just a few rules to begin with.
Like a dream, where there is no consequences.
In this real world, there are consequences, and that gives this world
more credence than dreams.
.



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