Re: Expansion is wrong and its soooo freakin' obvious

On May 16, 9:23 pm, jjs...@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
On May 16, 4:52 pm, Michael Helland <mobyd...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On May 16, 7:53 am, jjs...@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

On May 16, 1:40 am, MichaelHelland<mobyd...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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Common sense.

Mikeyour to ignorant to have any...

EM holds atoms together.

Hmmm.... and what about strong nuclear force? the one that happens to
hold the nucleus together?

Good point.

That one has a very short range.

Then try reading about it...

Because the Universe has better things to do than hold nuclei together
over long distances.

Just like it has better things to do than manage electron interactions
at distances of trillions of light years.

What the universe isn't some lazy person, these are irrelevant
comments which even push the envelope for you Mike...


Not lazy.

Beautifully efficient.


It's true for the strong nuclear force.

Why not the em force?

Because this is not an observed behavior... go learn about EM
theory...


If the EM force had a range and began to die out at about 60 Mpc;

we would observe:

first. a loss in frequency starting about there (which we do)

second. very very large galaxies and very distant galaxy whose light
is being received as point like objects (which we do, quasars)

third: very very faint light from even farther galaxies just limping
in before everything goes black (which we does as the CMB black body)


We observe all the things that would show up if the EM force had a
finite range.

If I'm wrong, make some predictions that an EM force with a finite
range (say, 100 billion light years) would lead to and cite
observations that falsify them.

(Of course, I know full well you won't do this. You'll comment about
how I am not worth that kind of effort. Given the consistency of your
replies to me over the past few months, I think you're just going with
the easy excuse.)

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And since you seem to be in the mood to dodge questions let me restate
them for you:

Why do photons decelerate?

Because they have a finite range.

Prove it....

What form is the energy loss?

Deceleration.

Idiot, is it in the form of heat?...

Is the energy lost or converted?

Lost.

Really so what about the conservation of energy which a good principle
to apply...


It is good.

But maybe it doesn't apply to every thing in the Universe.

Maybe it has limits that begin to appear in interactions that reach 60
Mpc in distance.

Or maybe what has been proven true on earth must be true for the whole
Universe.

Because you've been taught that it is absolute truth.

I realize I can only expect hostility for questioning your beliefs.

All in all, you're a good little soldier, and I'm sure you'll make a
fine whatever it is you want to be.
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