Re: Does Relativity generate more heat than light?


"Eric Gisse" <jowr.pi@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:42cdd046-446e-453a-a0bd-0b161a033070@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
On Jul 15, 3:23 am, "Tom Potter" <t...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"Eric Gisse" <jowr...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in messagenews:fa49c195-92da-4344-8683-a3b2bef2ce49@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

On Jul 13, 2:05 am, Tom Potter <tdp1...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Jul 13, 7:34 pm, Eric Gisse <jowr...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Jul 13, 2:25 am,Tom Potter<tdp1...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Can I take your post to mean that you are
incapable of using General Relativity
to compute just ONE of the many things
that Newton computed hundreds of years ago.
Since I explicitly said that GR replicates all of Newton, no you
cannot.

Don't run and hide Gisse.

Why ask the question when you will ignore the answer?


You claim General Relativity
is a useful and viable tool,
and that you are proficient in its' use.

All I'd like to see you do,
is duplicate just ONE of the tide computations
that Newton made hundreds of years ago
using what you assert is an inferior model.

I never said it was inferior - just wrong. Newton is an excellent
heuristic that is valid for most purposes - just like the rest of
classical mechanics.

Besides you aren't being clear enough about what you are asking.

What puzzles me is why
all of the General Relativity Gurus
are on the taxpayer dole,

Because if it were up to Tom Potter, the government would never fund
basic research.

and none make a living in the free market
using their powerful, esoteric knowledge.

Here comes the typical crackpotter rant about how much he hates basic
research. GPS and accurate [parts per trillion] time keeping are two
direct advances general relativity has brought.


Considering that you should use the
best tool for the job,
I'd like to see a demonstration of
what jobs General Relativity is is the best tool for,

Why ask questions whose answers have been given to you countless times
over the years? If you restrict yourself to technologies that are
direct functions of general relativity instead of the tremendous
astrophysical benefits, you have the global positioning system and the
ability to keep clocks accurate to parts per trillion levels by
accounting from gravitational and kinematic effects.

But that's not good enough for you, now is it?


other than computing things
beyond man's capacity to ever experience in time and space,
like the beginning and end of the universe,
time travel, warping through space, worm holes, etc.

Thanks for deliberately playing up sci-fi crap that no scientist takes
seriously in an attempt to discredit a theory you hate on personal
grounds. None of the things you babble about are possible without
unphysical initial conditions.


If the taxpayers is going to spend their hard earned dollars
training high school grads like you, it seems to me
that they should expect you to be taught something that
can be uses to improve the lot of mankind,
like DNA, etc.

There's that requisite crack about me being a high school graduate.
Did you not graduate high school, or something?

Define "improve the lot of mankind". It took nearly 50 years before
DNA became useful. You only defend it in hindsight because you find it
useful _AFTER_ the scientists that "are on the public dole" did the
basic research you would never willingly fund.


Back in the 1970's,
the taxpayers spent a lot of money
paying to teach inner city boys how to play basketball.

I wonder if teaching boys GTR is a similar scheme to keep boys
off the streets, or if it is a useful tool for anything.

Spot the lie. It starts and ends with "I wonder".

You know how GR is useful, it has been explained to you nearly every
time you post your inane little rant. You just don't care because
_you_ don't think the technologies and science it makes possible are
useful.


--
Tom Potter

As can be seen,
Eric Gisse tries to create a false strawman,
and make me the issue,
rather than the utility of General Relativity,

with the bare face lie
that I oppose government funded basic research.

Considering the enormous amounts of time, money, and minds
spent trying to rationalize General Relativity,
and educating (Brainwashing) young people,
and brainwashing the masses that it is
a powerful model of reality,

all I ask is for ONE General Relativity Guru,
or ONE General Relativity supporter (Cult Member)
to demonstrate the utility of General Relativity
by working out just a tiny fraction of the real world
applications that Newton worked out hundreds of years ago.

There is a vast difference between wisely using the
taxpayers money to educate young, impressionable people,
and to do "basic research"

and using the taxpayers hard-earned money
to promote what seems to be a non-viable, auguring model of reality
promoted more for its' glorification of
a particular race/religion, than for its' utility.

A prime example of this is that Einstein was Time Magazine's
"Man of the Century although the DNA model is used every day to
fight diseases, improve food production, fight crime,
reconstruct history, etc.

whereas GTR is an obvious dead end, non-viable Tower of Babel,
that leaves no room for sentient man,
and it wastes time, money and minds
on pursuits beyond man's capacity to ever experience in time and space,
like the birth and death of the universe, time travel,
warping through space, worm holes, etc.

As can be seen, the General Relativity Cult
parrot the false mantra that GTR
was and is essential to the GPS System,
when this has been shown time and again that
this is a false mantra.

Hopefully Gisse will work out ONE
of the tides that Newton computed centuries ago
to demonstrate that he understand General Relativity,
and that it is a useful, cost-effective, viable tool
to do the useful things for mankind.

I suggest that the government should
find a better way to keep Nerds off the streets,
and that Nerds should be encouraged to
play basketball so they will be stronger
and more healthy.

Friends, we've got trouble.
We've got trouble right here in Anchorage.
We've got to find a way to keep the Nerds off the streets,
and to get them to exercise and learn useful skills.

Bodies and minds are terrible things to waste.

--
Tom Potter

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