Re: Eric Gisse take heed: .... Re: grants


"Tom Potter" <tdp@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Jul 25, 2:43 am, "Tom Potter" <t...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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On Jul 24, 6:17 am, "Tom Potter" <t...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:



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On Jul 23, 4:52 am, "Tom Potter" <t...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

"Benj" <bjac...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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On Jul 20, 9:14 am, Eric Gisse <jowr...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Jul 19, 3:18 pm, "Androcles" <Headmas...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

John Parker, B.A., M.Sc., Ph.D. (Androcles, and titles mean
nothing
except to find work!)

Maybe if they were real they would mean something.

Mean the most when they are real and you make a living building
rustic
furniture or throwing utilitarian pottery.
A Ph.D. in biochemistry will definitely give such a business a
touch
of "class"!

However, if a person is determined to somehow get a grant, I would
suggest to Bob (and Eric) that a "review of the literature" is
likely
the most laughably time-wasting thing to do. Instead one has to
show
some real intelligence and ability and use that time to make a list
of
every high official you know even remotely acquainted with any
position of authority with regard to "grants" and then use that
list
to plant your nose firmly in the ass of each one. Then, possibly,
you
might get some small grant. Since a "grant" implies tax money,
which
equals "free money" the actual topic of your "study" is of no
importance.

"Benj" is absolutely right when he states:

If you want to receive taxpayer money use your
"time to make a list of every high official you know
even remotely acquainted with any position of authority
with regard to "grants" and then use that list
to plant your nose firmly in the ass of each one."

As I have suggested for years,
if a society needs advances in an area,
and the free market is not providing results,

a reward should be set up,
starting at some low dollar amount, and escalating
with time if a solution is not forthcoming.

-What's the solution to basic research?

Basic research
---------------
"The human endeavor to better understand phenomenon in the world we
live in.
It is research that is not 'tainted' by some commercial or utilitarian
purpose or imperative,
as opposed to "applied' research."

As I used to tell my kids, my students, and my employees,
"Don't open too many cans of worms."

Basic research is the process of opening cans of worms.

First, if you have plenty problems to solve
that involve health, education, the acquisition and
efficient use of energy, the environment,
food production, control of violence, etc,

and there are many worms like DNA crawling around
to do 'applied' research' on,
then there is no reason to open any more cans of worms.

I suggest that the government should set up measurements
on how many worms are active in society,
and when there aren't enough worms for the society
to inspect, that the government should give out annual awards,
to the top ten people who generate the most worms.

Perhaps a good measure of the need for more worms,
and the measure of worms generated
could be something like Google Trends.

What is NOT needed is to allow a small set of inbred
Gurus on the taxpayer dole, to set the standard for
what the taxpayer money is spent on in the pursuit
of who knows what.

--
Tom Potter

-How does your argument change when you replace "general relativity"
-with "evolution", "stem cells", "condensed matter", or "hydrology"?
-Hint: It doesn't. That's why it is stupid.

Eric Gisse makes a good point.

Which flew over your head.


Although General Relativity is crawling with "worms",
and has few, if any, cost-effective uses that make life
better for mankind,

Yea, except for the direct down-to-Earth uses like GPS and accurate
time keeping, in addition to the basic research it enables by
understanding cosmology at large.

You don't like basic research, do you? You don't like understanding
the universe, do you? You never look up at the stars or the Moon, now
do you Tom? All you care about is attached to the Earth's surface, and
*** anyone else who thinks otherwise - right Tom?

[idiotic, childish and vulgar blather by Gisse left intact.]

It is interesting to see that Eric Gisse parrots the
lie that General Relativity was and is essential
to the GPS system.
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All been hacked to death, Gisse is too stupid to read or have any
fuckin' sense.
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/GPS/GPS.htm
Gisse is of course a dingleberry and a complete waste of spacetime.
Even the crank aetherialist Wublee can see that much.







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