Re: ZLOPPS Zero loss of propellant propulsion system

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Greg Neill wrote:

Won't work. Conservation of momentum. But you already
knew that, right?

No Greg,
I actually know the thing will work,

And by what method do you purport to "know" this?
Let's see your mathematical model and calculations.

You are the one that is all superior with math and calculations.
So why don't you show me why it would violate conservation
of momentum at all instead of just "saying" it will like you
did. You said it would not work first.
So prove it.
:)

It's practically by definition..

Before the pulse momentum equals zero.

After the pulse (you say) the whole system is moving therefore it
has gained momentum.

Therefore momentum not conserved.

Well,
Then how does a rocket work?
Before pulse momentum equals zero,
etc.
But it moves.

It permanently ejects mass (spent fuel) which has momentum
in the opposite direction of the rocket's motion.

The Zlopps ejects the mass in the opposite direction also.

But it does not leave the device; it is trapped by it and
so the momentum is trapped, too.

But since air does not travel like a solid, it is able to
allow it to be gathered and momentum spread out
and changed back to forward motion again.

You're inventing a magical property for gases that doesn't
exist in the real world. Gas particles behave like any
other. Momentum is conserved, even with gases.

I am not inventing "expansion of gas" after a pressurized
gas is released.

Gas expansion occurs due to the interactions of the
individual gas particles; they collide with each other
and with the walls of the container.

Each individual collision obeys Newton's laws, conserving
momentum. Scaling it up to many, many collisions does not
change that; momentum is conserved in each and every
collision, and the net result of all interactions also
conserves momentum.
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