Re: Is the Lorentz transformations really true?

doug wrote:
Spaceman wrote:
doug wrote:

Spaceman wrote:


John Park wrote:


Michael Moroney (moroney@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) writes:


"Spaceman" <spaceman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:



Michael Moroney wrote:


I know you posted a description of a *proposed* experiment.
That's why
I made sure to specify I did *not* mean something where you
"describe an experiment and jump to a preconceived conclusion".
When I wrote 'an actual experiment' (twice!) I meant an actual
experiment that was actually performed, with the results
checked against the prediction. The history of science is
*full* of experiments that did *not* produce the expected
results. Michelson-Morley for one. They expected to come up
with a speed and direction of the aether wind. They did not
know the speed or direction before performing the experiment,
but they "knew" there was one. They did *not* expect a result
that indicated no aether at all!

I repeat: Show me an actual, repeatable experiment *THAT HAS
BEEN ACTUALLY PERFORMED* with actual RESULTS that prove ANY of
your stupid claims!

As I said dingleberry,
I proposed an experiment that would show the results of the
speed of light not being constant to all frames.
I posted such because not one experiment setup like such
has ever been done.

So, you have NO results on which to base your claim! That's what
I've been stating repeatedly. NO results at all! Show me JUST
ONE experiment (proper setup AND RESULTS!) that disprove SR.
Remember, showing just one green flying elephant disproves the
claim "there are no green flying elephants".

I repeat: Show me an actual, repeatable experiment *THAT HAS BEEN
ACTUALLY PERFORMED* with actual RESULTS that disprove ANY part of
SR.

Since, by your own admission, your proposed experiment has NEVER
been done, we don't know its results!

What if Rutherford, with his gold foil/alpha experiment, simply
proposed the setup and stated "the alphas all will go straight
through the foil and will be deflected a tiny angle at most."
without ever performing it? We'd not know of the atomic nucleus
and would still be taught the raisin pudding model of the atom.

I wonder if Spaceman equates "experiment" with "high-school lab
exercise" where the goal is to produce a predicted result.


Actually, no.
That is what they all want to do, they want to ignore a new
experiment and just do another old one that has nothing to do
with the new experiment.
In short they want to do repetition of science classwork, instead
of actual science all on thier own.
:)


It is even worse. He thinks that proposing an experiment is all the
proof he needs since he feels he knows the results of the
experiment. Actually doing it is unimportant to him. That way he
will not be shown to be wrong. Noeinstein tried an experiment
which showed
he did not understand how to do experiments so he is left to
bluster and yell to try to get people to accept his answer anyway.


I never said doing the experiment is not important.
It is nice how you always seem to make up such wondeful
lies about what I think.
It is also nice to see you are not able to think about the results
and are afraid to try the experiment if you could at all and would
rather just stay a clueless moron and worship the religion you have
chosen.
:)


There are no results to think about.

So you can not think of results with a proposed experiment?
Wow.
You poor thing.
It must be impossible for you to make any experiment on
your own then since you can not think about what reults
you would want to test for to begin with.
LOL
You love to prove you are clueless about experimentaion.
That is wonderful.
:)


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