Re: No infinite energy needed for lightspeed
- From: "Spaceman" <spaceman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 21:19:06 -0400
jonathan cyriax brast wrote:
Spaceman schrieb:
jonathan cyriax brast wrote:
Spaceman schrieb:
Eric Gisse wrote:ERROR: Doppler Effect would terminate specific quantisation of
Where's the motion in E = mc^2, space***? The particle ISN'TThe parts inside the particles are moving Eric.
MOVING!
emitted Light.
Total bull*** talk.
Doppler effect would not do anything of the sort.
Well, he would change the frequencies of the emitted photons, what is
what I said.
Oh
You mean like what color it looks like.
That would correspond to the motion reflecting
the light at different frequencies.
Yet another silly thing that works with classical thoughts
and simple doppler instead of stupid ass doppler that needs
time dilations and length contractions instead.
:)
Not at all: W, E, T, Q and V are not the same for a reason.
LOL
You truly have been brainwashed beyond help huh?
they are all parts of the dang parts.
Sheesh.
W is energy transformation
E is energy itself
T is kinetic energy
Q is thermic energy
V is potential energy
All finite numbers of any, means finite mass still.
I am still wishing for this supposed infinite
mass from non infinite motion to be proven.
It still shows up as total bull*** and no matter
what is done. you need infinite motion to make infinite mass
still.
That is why gas can expodes and coal burns and nukesgas cans explode because of thermic energy
make realy big booms
coal burns because of chemical energy
nukes explode because of nuclear energy
first is kinetic energy form mechanical processes
second is electromagnetic energy form electrodynamical processes
third is chromodynamic energy from quantumchromodynamical processes
three absolute different cases
All simply explained by mass in motion if you actually ever
learned classical physics.
Actually I learned classical physics better than the relativistic
approach. But as you will see in everyday physics there is no need
for exact relativistic equations.
That would make sense because classical physics
still uses logic.
Everything can be explained by classical physics.
No time dilation, no length contraction needed.
The first step is learning how the clock malfunctons
with changes in g-forces.
Are all of the particles 1/(sqrt(2))*c fast?
Then why don't the collapse when they get cold?
Why should they collapse?
The smaller stuff inside it freezes too and everyone knows
when you freeze things they pretty much always expand and
don't collapse.
No, ONLY Water expands when it's frozen.
EVERYTHING else becomes more dense.
Aha!
You did learn classical physics!
WOW I am impressed.
I am sorry I had to test you with that one.
I now will never say you never learned clasisical physics
again.
I am sorry.
And why don't the just dissipate?
Because you stopped the motion and they froze instead.
Braun motion like temperature is right.
But where is the energy when it stopped moving?
E=mc^2 is only when it doesn't move.
No,
E=mc^2 actually changes with temperature.
When the motion is slowed, you will not get the maximum
energy from it such as energy that causes friction.
(tis a simply reason super conductivity occurs with cold,
and not heat.)
The full equation is E = mc^2 + ( 1/sqrt(1-v/c )*(1/2)mv^2 .
No again that is using a unitless 1
The full equation would be more like E = mc^2 + KE.
(bit of course that needs adjustments just as yours would with
cold or heat being a surrounding problem.
If v = 0 than v^2 = 0 and only E=mc^2 is left.
If v -> c than (1-v/c) -> 0 and 1/sqrt(1-v/c) -> infinity.
There is your unitless 1 again causing the problem that does
not occur in reality.
(the photon would be an infinite mass if that was true)
In that case the Energy itself increases too.
Again,
I would love to know how you can allow an infinite
from a bunch of finites without seeing that that 1 unitless thing
is bull***?
No, Spaceman, don't worry.
I like to discuss things with you,
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because it will improve my skill in dealing with people who are not
blessed with the knowledge of the monolithic church of science we
physic students humbly obey till death against our highly intelligent,
brilliant minds.
You got the church part correct even with the <isd = true>
:)
The pure awesome logic we have to resist every day
can't possible touch our faith and fundamentalistic believe in false
experiments, and we wonder every day why science itself in nature
works like in our prophecies even if we know, deep down in our
hearts, that we follow a false god, not even believing in such an
universal force except for our Grand Unifying Theory.
</irony_sarcasm_detection>
Keep up the good work in not believing what you are told.
But I can't possible give up my idols for your theories.
I generally look up to people more intelligent than me.
And I try not to look down on equals.
Well,
I hate to tell you,
I killed your clock god even if you don't know it yet..
I do not wish you to look up to me.
In fact I do not think anyone that seems to be able to
think like you can should look up to anyone.
( I do put you as more advanced than most rubber ruler morons)
But if you wish to follow the lemmings it is your choice of course.
But if you actually think about all sorts of things instead of just
what is written in your "bible" then you may see the actual light.
I do think you should look up how a clock works
and find out more about your "mystical" unitless 1
that you also have been worshipping.
Maybe then you could be a peer instead of on the lower
wrung of science that is still dealing with multiple standards
instead of single standards like the sciences that have made
everything actually work in reality and not only on math paper.
Someday you might get it.
It is very simple also so you should be able to get it someday
if you actually do use your own brain.
Three simple words
The clock malfunctioned.
Scientific time is still absolute and still proving it each
and every day.
--
James M Driscoll Jr
Creator of the Clock Malfunction Theory
Spaceman
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