Re: cesium clock question


"tadchem" <tadchem@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:
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On Oct 11, 2:14 pm, "Spaceman" <space...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Sam Wormley wrote:
Tom Potter wrote:
"Sam Wormley" <sworml...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:27xHk.

I bet you're surprised that running at a train whistle changes
its pitch, eh Potter.

I am surprised to see that Sam Wormley
thinks that running at a train
changes the natural resonance of its' whistle.

Potter, from the perspective of the moving observer, the
natural resonate frequency is what is measured. Predicted
by the Doppler effect and special relativity.

It's the old perceived measurement trick.
Too bad it is a perceived change and not truly a physical
change of the whistle itself.
And if you want to be real tricky, you use the percieved
wavelength to prove that the speed of sound is constant to
all just like lightspeed is.
Too bad it is all perceived bull*** about the reality of the
whistle.
:)

Potter is unable to distinguish between what Sam 'believes' and what
Potter perceives to be Sam's beliefs.

"I believe you should never believe what someone tells you that
someone else believes, but I don't believe you should believe that
just because I said so." - Thaddeus Stout

Tom Davidson

My pal
"tadchem" <tadchem@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:
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On Oct 11, 2:14 pm, "Spaceman" <space...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Sam Wormley wrote:
Tom Potter wrote:
"Sam Wormley" <sworml...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:27xHk.

I bet you're surprised that running at a train whistle changes
its pitch, eh Potter.

I am surprised to see that Sam Wormley
thinks that running at a train
changes the natural resonance of its' whistle.

Potter, from the perspective of the moving observer, the
natural resonate frequency is what is measured. Predicted
by the Doppler effect and special relativity.

It's the old perceived measurement trick.
Too bad it is a perceived change and not truly a physical
change of the whistle itself.
And if you want to be real tricky, you use the percieved
wavelength to prove that the speed of sound is constant to
all just like lightspeed is.
Too bad it is all perceived bull*** about the reality of the
whistle.
:)

Potter is unable to distinguish between what Sam 'believes' and what
Potter perceives to be Sam's beliefs.

"I believe you should never believe what someone tells you that
someone else believes, but I don't believe you should believe that
just because I said so." - Thaddeus Stout

Tom Davidson

My pal
"tadchem" <tadchem@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:
503f488c-3f4c-4f51-a21b-c3a1756a5404@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
On Oct 11, 2:14 pm, "Spaceman" <space...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Sam Wormley wrote:
Tom Potter wrote:
"Sam Wormley" <sworml...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:27xHk.

I bet you're surprised that running at a train whistle changes
its pitch, eh Potter.

I am surprised to see that Sam Wormley
thinks that running at a train
changes the natural resonance of its' whistle.

Potter, from the perspective of the moving observer, the
natural resonate frequency is what is measured. Predicted
by the Doppler effect and special relativity.

It's the old perceived measurement trick.
Too bad it is a perceived change and not truly a physical
change of the whistle itself.
And if you want to be real tricky, you use the percieved
wavelength to prove that the speed of sound is constant to
all just like lightspeed is.
Too bad it is all perceived bull*** about the reality of the
whistle.
:)

Potter is unable to distinguish between what Sam 'believes' and what
Potter perceives to be Sam's beliefs.

"I believe you should never believe what someone tells you that
someone else believes, but I don't believe you should believe that
just because I said so." - Thaddeus Stout

Tom Davidson

My pal Tom Davidson makes a good point
when he points out that Sam Wormley
and all things in the universe,
are what they are,

and that I cannot change them by
running at them
projecting my thoughts and opinions onto them, etc.

Thanks Tommy,
for reminding the readers,
what the Greeks knew over 2000 years ago,
"A thing is what it is."

Of course, what we know now is
that a thing was "what it was"
before it exchanged one or more units of action (Cycles)
with another thing,
and became "what it is."

I am pleased to have exchanged one or more units of action
with my pals Sammy and Tommy,
and help make them "what they are".

--
Tom Potter

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