Re: General Relativity Meditations & Antigravity

On Oct 13, 8:11 am, "Spaceman" <space...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

So first thing you are saying is "relative" time is wrong.
Since if time were truly relative both would say the others clock
slowed down

If cases like it, you have to take the larger scale of the sun
and the galaxy as reference for the twins. For tom who
is stationary, his proper time is longer (because of straight
worldline) compared to jerry who has to change some
of the time "movement" to space, so tom ages faster.

Wrong.
The proper time for both twins is the same.
The traveling twins clock simply malfunctioned.
Again,
Both twins are the same revolutions of Earth with reference
to the Sun old.
Hint: the revolutions are days and one trip (orbit) around the sun
is a year for every dang reference frame in the Universe.
The twins are not different ages according to the Entire Universe.
And the traveling twins clock malfunctioned according to the
entire Universe.

Pure blooded relativists may argue with you using only geometry
without much physical correlate hence not satisfying you
anti-relativists. Maybe we can say that there is a certain energy
to move in time and space. So if you divert some of your time
to movement in space, the movement in time would be slower.
When the travelling twin moves in space more, there is less
energy to move in time, hence his age slows down.

Again.
It is very simple for the non brainwashed to understand.
Twins paradox debunking 101 goes like this.

Both twins are the same revolutions of Earth with reference
to the Sun.
So therefore they are the same days, months and years old.
The clock malfunctioned.

It seems logical but our universe is not built with that
simple mechanism.

Actually it is a part of the how the universe was built.
It is a natural clock.
It is also what inspired humans to invent "time".

To think of space and time, we
need to first convert them to their true nature..

The pure nature of time is what I just stated.
Planetary motion.
It is how time came to be invented by humans.
The pure nature of space is a distance (units also invented
by man) of seperation or volume of 3D space taken up
by objects.







perhaps
the movie Matrix may illustrate it better, you need
to convert space and time to 1 and 0... there is finite
loop in the algorithm for space and time.. if you are
stationary in space, you move fast in time. Although
there may be same revolutions around the sun, the
stationary Tom time flies faster while jerry who circles
the earth at 90% the speed of light age less although
both circles the sun. The key is the absolute movement
in space and time and the comparisons. Think
of the photon as it cicles around the earth while the
earth circles around the sun. If there is a way to
make the photon slower, it would age and maybe
decay or turn into another particle.

Again
Tom and Jerry are the same age according to the Universe.
I am sorry you wish to use movie magic to try and explain
a simple clock malfunction.
I guess you will never return to science.
Have fun in rubber ruler world.

But what spells the difference is the movement in
the local region earth where Jerry obviously moves
faster in space hence equipartition of spacetime
energy says Jerry time energy is lessened hence in
the final accounting in the universe. He ages slower
because of the local region (earth) effect.

Don't be stuck in the science of the medieval or even
stone ages, we are parsec way past it and if you want to be
stuck forever. Then try to live in the cave and don't even
bother to read this news group because without E. relativity,
there won't be internet.

I'm so bored with you already. You are so blinded by
ignorance as you partake in very outdated newtonian religion.

cal
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