Re: The REAL cause of the Titanic Disaster.

On Oct 23, 3:34 pm, Ian Parker <ianpark...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 23 Oct, 18:11, NoEinstein <noeinst...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:



On Oct 22, 7:58 am, Ian Parker <ianpark...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On 21 Oct, 23:12, NoEinstein <noeinst...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Dear Harry C:  I am an architect.  Both WTC towers survived the
impacts perfectly well.  But the floor structure consisted of deep
trusses sprayed with fireproofing.  When the planes hit, most of the
fireproofing simply cracked off.  That left unprotected steel to hold
up buildings experiencing catastrophic fires.  I have invented and
patented a voided, flat plate reinforced concrete floor system called
‘Plen-E-Air Slab’ with a flat bottom surface which would have left 4-
hr. fire protection in place after those planes skidded on out of the
building.  The void in such distributes A/C and electrical/signal..
Because of the 15% reduction in building height (for the same number
of floors) whole building cost would be 15% less, too.  If my floor
system had been used on the WTC buildings, both would be repaired and
back in service, today.

I mention the latter, because the USA has a penchant for shunning
anything that’s better.  The reason?  Better things make those who did
things the old way look bad.  Protecting the status quo egos of the
old-timers is "bringing down” America... literally!  — NoEinstein —- Hide quoted text -

There are many factors involved in building design. There are
questions of light, questions of ametity, questions of transport etc.
My contention is that if you want security and this is your prime
concern, the only way to go is underground.

There are a number of points. Steel is normally regarded as a good
material in a fire. A building which consists largely of metal and
glass is normally regarded as being safe in a fire. The buildings
which are considered dangerous are those which contain a lot of soft
uphostery - like a normal house. If you have an aircraft loaded with
fuel crashing into a building making it safe is a tall order.

Your design might be safer in some respects. Most of the casualties in
the WTC occurred because there were to safe evacuation routes. I am
now going to make as claim that the WTC casulaties youls have been a
lot less were there permanent nets that people could jump into. Hey
why not insist that all buildings are <20m high and all are surrounded
by 4m of water?

As far as saying that Obama will nean the end. The US is the major
threat to world peace today. Iraq is an aggressive war that was sold
to the American people through a series of lies. Terrorism has
increased enormously because of it. 2.3 million people have been
driven from their homes and are in Iraq and Jordan. How are you with
your arcitectural expertise going to design a house which is safe to
live in in Iraq? How are you going to get people on the raod FROM
Damascus?

DARPA is developing AI systems like a helicopter that can land on a
window sill. Have they ever figured that they are making a rod for
their own backs. A helicopter than can land on a window sill will
becaome a consumer item available for antone to buy.

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Dear Ian:  A safer skyscraper would include compact "fireman's poles"
which are in fire safe enclosures.  Those poles could be located
inside of structural columns.  Each pole goes maybe four floors, then
offsets.  By sliding very fast down poles, large numbers of people
could be evacuated, vertically, in a short time.  Ten poles could be
fit into the space of a single exit stair.  The latter 'kill' the
economic feasibility of many buildings. Another advantage of the poles
over stairs is that even if a person died on the way down, their body
wouldn't block the stair.  A "pile" would just be created at the
bottom for the survivors to step on.  Where there is a will, solutions
can be found!  — NoEinstein —- Hide quoted text -

It might also be true to say that the WTC was not a good idea anyway.
The whole purpose of large skyscrapers is to bring brain workers
together. Technology is in fact making this unnecessary. Why not leave
people in their own homes with high speed broadband. They could even
brew up coffee in front of screens and converse about this and that in
their breaks.

In fact the Web is probably better than a large building. People can
work collaboratively on a file simultaneously. All the data can be in
front of you.

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Dear Ian: Corporate cultures die hard. Bosses like to count heads so
as to feel important. Tall buildings are really just phallic symbols
of corporate power. One day, gas prices may force companies to work
from home like you suggest. I will enjoy watching the changes sure to
be brought by the present... depression. — NoEinstein —
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