Re: Physics 1

Lofty Goat wrote:
On Mon, 09 Mar 2009 08:24:12 -0500, jmfbahciv wrote:

Lofty Goat wrote:
"Ben Newsam" <ben.newsam@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
No wonder the world is going to the dogs.
On Sun, 08 Mar 2009 11:38:24 +0000, K. Bunny wrote:
I blame the parents.
You're right, but what the hell do we do about it?

Where I live, engineers and scientists are paid in peanuts,
Not really. You've just demonstrated why there is a perceptual problem.

and parents
quite understandably want their kids to do well for themselves.
Define well. Do you also think that a million for income is doing well?


Something is terribly wrong with this picture.
Yep. and you have the same problem.

/BAH

"Paid in peanuts" is a euphemism. The scientific, engineering and technical people I know, and they are legion, are paid less than many others with less knowledge but better verbal skills or better unions.

Those kinds get no satisfaction creating something.


As for parents wanting their children to do well, their definitions are all subjective and all vary. However, the net effect of that is pretty reliably that they don't encourage their children to study science.

IME, it was the teachers who did that.


As for your placing this problem at my feet, frankly I'm baffled. I've always said we'd be better off with more scientists and engineers, and fewer lawyers and MBAs.

Sigh! In order for you, the scientist or engineer, to do your work,
you need the people who are funding you. To establish the
infrastructure that supplies your materials, lab and people to do the
other work, requires managers, lawyers, accountants, farmers, food
processors, public utilities, cleanups, and <bletch> even salesmen.
In addition, there has to be some kind of training infrastructure
so that all the knowledge, required to get this work done, can be
passed on to the younger generations. So now you have writers,
publishers, ink makers, paper products, etc. plus transportation
support required so you can get _your_ work done.

Who is going to empty your wastebasket every night? Or clean
the cans?

/BAH
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