Re: Request for data on solar neutrino flux during the current solar minimum

On Apr 12, 3:40 pm, Uncle Al <Uncle...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Mike Jr wrote:

On Apr 11, 6:48 pm, Uncle Al <Uncle...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Mike Jr wrote:

On Apr 11, 1:34 pm, Uncle Al <Uncle...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Mike Jr wrote:

There is evidence that peaks in the power spectra of the solar
neutrino flux correspond to peaks in the ACRIM TSI power spectra.
See:http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/0805/0805.3686.pdf

Peaks in the ACRIM TSI power spectra correspond to peaks in the
sunspot [number] cycle.
http://www.acrim.com/Reference%20Files/Secular%20total%20solar%20irra...
See figure 2.

Can anyone point me to studies of how the solar neutrino flux has
responded to the current extended solar minimum?
 I thought so too at first because I was thinking in terms of
photons.

That is the energy the sun emits that is intercepted by the Earth.

Neutrinos have no such constraints.

nor do they have any absorption.

And neither do gravity
waves.

Gravity waves are in the ocean, as in tsunamis.  Gravitational waves
are propagating excitations of spacetime from quadrupole-symmetry
shifting mass.  Bloody lots of mass.

Ok, I was a knucklehead and misspoke. I (well Dr. Sturrock) means
gravity waves.

Go ahead, show us how many watts of gravitational waves Sol emits -
and why LIGO cannot detect them.

 From the STURROCK paper:

"The fact that the solar irradiance exhibits modulation identical to
that of neutrinos

[snip]

That is bull*** at face value.  The solar core and the solar
photospheric surface are decoupled by centuries of photon diffusion
outward.

The sun rings like a bell.  In a red giant it can take six months for
a sound wave to travel through it. For the sun it will be less.

Helioseismology is not couped to energy diffusion.  Energy is only
produced in the stellar core.

<http://www.astronomy.ohio-state.edu/~ryden/ast162_1/notes3.html>
 "It typically takes about 170,000 years for energy generated by
fusion in the Sun's core to stagger its way to the Sun's surface."

OK, longer than my previously stated "centuries."



How many solar neutrinos does Super-Kamiokande intercept
each day?

<http://www.dpf99.library.ucla.edu/session2/smy0203.pdf>

Eleven solar neutrinos/day on average.  Observed solar constant
overall decrease is 0.02%,

<http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2009/01apr_deepsolarminimum.htm>

[sqrt(x)]/x = 0.0002 for noise in signal
[4x10^(-8)]x^2 - x = 0
x = 25 million events for 0.0002 significance

At 11 neutrinos/day, needed are 6222.5 years of observation (including
leap years).  Bull*** on neutrino correlation with photosphere
emission.

A search for any particular feature in any single solar neutrino
dataset is unlikely to establish variability of the solar neutrino
flux since the count rates are very low. Peter Sturrock decided that
combining datasets was the way to go. For example, combining data from
both the Homestake and GALLEX experiments.  Hey, the guy is not an
idiot.

Peter Sturrock then used Monte Carlo simulations to calculate that the
probability that the neutrino data would match the irradiance data by
chance is only a few parts in 10,000.

It's bull***.  Zip up your fly and walk away.
Ah, thanks but no thanks.

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