Re: JSH: The argument for 0 funding academia

On Oct 3, 4:57 pm, A <anonymous.rubbert...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Oct 3, 7:43 pm, JSH <jst...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:





Gratuitous insults or snide remarks will not save funding for
academics.

Academia is in weird position here but academics worldwide need to
understand that they may face a situation where  the world processes
this story appropriately to see that removing funding for academia
could seemingly paradoxically create greater growth in *useful*
knowledge.

Albert Einstein is of course another example of someone who worked for
free at what he loved.

Given my situation I wish to present the idea that he was a norm and
not an outlier in that he worked for free and that the BEST research
will come from people like Albert Einstein, or me!  People who are not
being paid to do the research but who do it just because that's part
of who they are.

The world may simply be throwing money away by paying academics to do
research, and getting nothing in return for that money as well, as my
story has academics FIGHTING research found.

So they're taking money, and doing the opposite of what's expected.

I think 0 funding can grow as an idea.  Of course academia can fight
it, but they're on the public dole.

If the politicians pull the money, what can they do really?  Whine?
Complain?  Say there will be dire consequences?

But Albert Einstein is there as an example, and I will be an example
to show that researchers will DO THE WORK ANYWAY, without pay, and by
not paying, the world can clear out the bad academics who will fight
original research to protect their paychecks.

As those people aren't there for the knowledge, but for the money.

Take away the money, and they will leave with it.

James Harris

Those of us who work at private universities and are not supported by
grants would not lose any funding at all, at least directly, by some
kind of "0 funding for academics" policy. James, are you saying you
want to cut off all federal grants to researchers (all grants coming
through the NSF, for example), or that you also think all state
universities should be closed?

I think academics should be paid to teach. But should be 0 funded for
research.

So no, of course I wouldn't promote closing universities or any
schools, but school teachers don't usually get funding grants now, do
they?

But my idea would slash government grants significantly.

The easiest people to 0 fund are people who usually work with paper
and pencil you could say, like theoretical physicists, and I'm
thinking a lot about Albert Einstein. He was 0 funded. Notice what
that got the world.

If Einstein had been on the public dole would we have general
relativity today?

Some areas I'll admit would probably never be 0 funded and shouldn't,
like medical research (though with time it may turn out that would
yield better research as well). 0 funding would probably start out in
a few areas and then grow over time until it dominated.

It's an odd thing but looking at my own story I do MORE not less
because I'm 0 funded. So I'm looking at myself and thinking that 0
funding may actually work better.

The idea of funding researchers as we do is a modern one that simply
needs to be re-thought.

Just in this math situation I'm looking at significant failures in
multiple areas by academics which has really soured my view of
academia and makes me really concerned about possible significant
abuses where people are in it for the money.

0 funding for research removes money as an incentive.

The TOP researchers will do the work anyway because they love it. The
rest will leave.


James Harris
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