Re: Apollo One, the FBI, and Scott Grissom <- WARNING! TROLL! Probably Mary Zornio in drag again, too

From: LaDonna Wyss (hpywife927_at_yahoo.com)
Date: 06/07/04 

Date: 6 Jun 2004 20:34:50 -0700

"Charleston" <charleston1@coxthedotgoeshere.net> wrote in message news:<FAMwc.31395$lL1.9330@fed1read03>...
> "LaDonna Wyss" <hpywife927@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:4821518f.0406061311.7d6572c1@posting.google.com...
> > "Charleston" <Charleston@coxdotgoeshere.net> wrote in message
> news:<1lywc.23685$lL1.21474@fed1read03>...
> > > "LaDonna Wyss" <hpywife927@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > <snip>
> > >
> > > > As for the names of the documents I retrieved from the National
> > > > Archives and their ID numbers: ARE YOU SERIOUS????? There are 453
> > > > boxes of evidence there; are you seriously telling me I am supposed to
> > > > sit down and list every document I copied, give dates, form numbers/ID
> > > > numbers, and signatories for each one???
> > >
> > > I don't know what you have in the way of documents but I would like to
> know
> > > if you have TPS 068. Surely you know the significance of that document.
> It
> > > should be etched in your mind.
> >
> > I'm not sure if it's TPS 068; when I copied them, the National
> > Archives has a stamp in the upper right-hand corner of the copier to
> > prevent originals from being removed and it cut off the numbers.
> > However, I do have the TPS describing the condition of MDC Panel 8
> > upon removal. I do not have a TPS specifically talking about results
> > of the electron microscope examination of the bracket, but that
> > information is in the Congressional Record.
>
> Thank you very much for your direct answer. I know exactly what you are
> talking about with the little "Reproduced at the National Archives" copy
> machine gift:-) I would be very interested in seeing the TPS you do have.
> I had no luck in getting TPS 068 from NASA using the FOIA. TPS 068 should
> be in the Congressional Record, you are correct, but I did not find it, and
> it sounds like you did not find it either; particularly from mod 12 forward.
> It would help clear up a couple issues in the Hill report and the original
> report. I don't believe though that it would do anything more than that,
> although you never know for sure until you look at all of the evidence.
>
> For all of the interest Scott has expressed about that little piece of metal
> with the hole in it, that is only part of the story of the electrical short.
> He must know this to be true. The rest of the story is what happened to the
> little center piece of that bracket. Scott never mentions it AFAIK. You
> see that is where the minute arc pitting really did occur--not on the piece
> Scott has made famous. So whatever happened to that piece of metal and
> where is it now? I wonder if Scott knows.
>
> http://www.challengerdisaster.info/Photographs%202%20of%202%20(bracket%20related)/8-%20Close-up%20of%20back%20side%20of%20bracket%20found%20at%20LARC%20w%20metal%20piece.jpg
>
> (alternate link) http://makeashorterlink.com/?C4C622B78
>
> It is not always what you *can* see that helps tell a story, sometimes it is
> what you *can not* see.
>
> Daniel

Actually, the metal bracket and the pitting are red herrings. If you
really want the "meat" of the issue, remember the slide Borman showed
on page 79 where he says it is the wire that is the most "likely"
source of ignition? Notice he did not mention what that wire
controlled. 30 pages later, when the congressmen asked if that wire
controlled communications, Maxime Faget replied that no, it controlled
the +yaw thrusters on the Service Module. Interesting because I've
been saying for over a year that fire started at 6:09 in the Service
Module when Gus tried to pulse that +yaw jet. The first time he fired
it nothing happened; he had to fire it a second time. Three minutes
later Roger points something out to him (the voice transcript is
chopped up by NASA so it doesn't say WHAT he pointed out), but right
after that all three crew members start playing musical face plates.
They open their visors repeatedly up THROUGH the first call of "fire"
(that call came from Gus; ECU data indicated his face plate was open
until the end of the transmission--source, Bell Labs voice tape
analysis to an accuracy of 100%.)
You see, the short on that A/C roll switch caused problems on every
system downstream of that short. I would have to give you a lesson on
how to fly the CSM to give you the exact significance of that short
and the thruster in question, but basically during the Rotation
Control portion of the Static Fire test there is only one maneuver
during which Main B is closed (the circuit with the short in
question): +yaw.
I'm sure I'll get 5,000 responses/questions to this, so let me try and
finish answering the current posts before the deluge begins. :-)
LaDonna