Re: OT: Re: MOST (was Re: Zodiacal light linked to ancient Martian oceans)

From: Neil Gerace (geracen_at_iinet.net.au)
Date: 08/09/04 

Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2004 13:30:45 +0800

"Geoffrey A. Landis" <geoffrey.landis@sff.net> wrote in message
news:1bfb1890.0408082010.8d36de@posting.google.com...

> The original assertion with which I was disagreeing is this one:
>
> Henry Spencer wrote:
> :>Just which side stood for tyranny and which stood for freedom can
> :> depend quite a bit on who writes the history books.
>
> I disagree. I continue to disagree. The disagreement is a simple
> matter of historical fact. Writing it loud and clearly:
>
> THE CONFEDERACY CONSISTED OF SLAVE STATES.
>
> Regardless of the motives of the North (which were varied and
> complicated), regardless of whether Lincoln was or wasn't the great
> emancipator, regardless of why or how or when the slaves were
> emancipated, regardless of draft riots, regardless of the presence in
> the Union of border states with a small number of slaves; the
> Confederacy was a confederation of slave states. There is no
> connotation of the word "freedom" that can make it equal "slavery".

There is if you're talking about the freedom of the slave-owners, rather
than that of the slaves. It appears to this outsider that the Southern
states thought that the North was trying to take their freedom away from
them. Freedom to determine their own customs and laws. I agree with what
Henry said. If the South had won, they would have written in the history
books that they had liberated themselves from Northern tyranny, the way I
see it.

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