Re: Liberty Bell 7 attempted recovery

From: Andre Lieven (dg411_at_FreeNet.Carleton.CA)
Date: 10/03/04 

Date: 3 Oct 2004 03:53:22 GMT

"Scott Hedrick" (dinehnm@yahoo.com) writes:
>> Andre Lieven wrote:
>> > Of course, because it blows this claim.
>
> You're a fine one to talk about blown claims- *still* waiting to see your
> verifiable evidence of any US colony. You've named some places, but you
> haven't provided the least shred of evidence that the US ever created any
> colonies.

Non sequitur. First, one does need to found a colony, in order to
acquire one, or more. Two, colonies are not the only evidence of
empire. ( Did the USSR have colonies in a different manner than
the US ? -Germany and Japan militarily conquered, and then garrisoned-
Was it an empire ? Reagan sure thought so... )
 
> The evidence shows rather the opposite- the US has a history of spinning
> off territories into commonwealths or independent states (some of which
> have come back to bite...).

Yeah, like Puerto Rico, Hawaii...

Oh, and the UK freed India, Pakistan, many African nations, but
they were an empire. They just failed, unlike the US, to be able
to take the next step, into empires of commerce and finance.

So, when the US held the Phillipines, and Cuba, it was surely
an empire. And, since it still holds some of Cuba, certainly
against Cuba's wishes, empire it remains on that level, as well.

Andre 

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                                    The Man Prayer, Red Green.

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