Re: Life on Venus is absolute hell, but doable

From: George (george_at_wtfiswrongwithyou.com)
Date: 01/26/05


Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 21:04:27 GMT


"Brad Guth" <bradguth@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:e75886b8381f94eaba25d7627d9f963b.49644@mygate.mailgate.org...
> "|-|erc" <H@r.c> wrote in message news:35p945F4m9lbfU1@individual.net
>
>> Mars?
>
> Mars has also been doable. At least once upon a time (somewhat the
> opposite of our ice-ages) Mars wasn't so damn cold and nasty. However,
> as of lately the easily pulverised and sub-frozen to death and otherwise
> thoroughly TBI to death Mars seriously sucks.
>
> Even for extremely limited robotics Mars sucks. For the likes of
> humanity it'll take another spendy decade and perhaps a trillion hard
> earned bucks and euros to pull it off.
>
> For a human expedition that'll become far more limited than doing our
> moon, nearly every stinking watt and/or calorie (4.184 joules) of energy
> will need to be imported from Earth, and of course the environment of
> Earth will become stuck with at least another 1000:1 worth of artificial
> CO2 per whatever's shipped off towards Mars (I wonder how much pollution
> is worth these global-warming days?).
>
> Unless a significant geothermal resource of energy is identified, Mars
> is going to remain as somewhat spendy and damn risky, not to mention the
> required safe-house for those managing to return (even though they're
> suffering badly from radiation exposure) that'll have to live out their
> lives in isolation, as that's certainly another what-if that's spendy
> and absolutely chuck full of complications.
>
> How do you propose that we even get folks to/from the likes of Mars
> without their being pulverised through and through by something or TBI
> to death?
>
> Do you even realize that we still haven't a viable fly-by-rocket lander,
> and that's nearly four decades after the supposed fact?
>
> BTW; Mars is in the wrong direction, at least it's typically better than
> twice as far away as Venus, and seldom even that close, whereas Venus
> comes to within 110 fold the distance to our moon, and Venus
> accomplishes that fairly often.
>
> Regards, Brad Guth / GASA-IEIS http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-topics.htm
>
>
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A person on Venus is going to withstand the crushing pressures and temperatures
hot enough to melt lead exactly how? If a probe designed to withstand these
effects can only last a few minutes before it is destroyed, how do you expect a
human to survive?



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