Re: Technical and Spiritual Development

From: William Mook (william.mook_at_mokindustries.com)
Date: 01/28/05 

Date: 27 Jan 2005 22:56:48 -0800

Terrell Miller wrote:
> William Mook wrote:
>
> >>Bill, in a very large part of the world (with a huge percentage of
> >
> > the
> >
> >>world's population), birth control is *evil*.
> >
> >
> > So? Those people will be less likely to use anti-aging drugs if
the
> > drugs have a built in fertility control. It really doesn't affect
the
> > argument.
>
> <sigh>
>
> here's a hint for you, sparky: they wouldn't put infertility drugs in

> teh antiaging serum to begin with. becuase a lot of the people able
to
> afford the serum don't believe in any form of birth control.
>
> Got it?

Sigh yourself oh clueless one.

Demanding that fertility be supressed among those that consumed
anti-aging drugs would be something not demanded by the market, but by
the government due to valid concerns about third party effects.

You can't have it both ways. You can't say that there's no frigging
way anti-aging drugs could be used that wouldn't lead to
overpopulation, and at the same time worry about the superstitions of
people as they relate to fertility control.

Get a grip. Those that use anti-aging drugs, when they become
available, will have to accept that their fertility will be reduced by
this use to mitigate valid third party effects.

>
>
> >>ah, so the reason why a campesino in Guatemala doesn't have wood
> >
> > floors
> >
> >>or running water is because...he *chooses* to?!?
> >
> >
> > The reason you believe people in Guatemala are wild primitives have
> > more to do with your biases than with reality.
>
> um no,

Yeah. Check out the housing that you can buy in Guatemala for less
than a comparable house in the US. The dwelling has hardwood floors.
Your commentary suggesting hardwood floors are non-existant in
Guatemala is racist rot nothing more.

> the reason why I think many people in Guatemala (go look up the
> term 'campesino', please) live in primitive conditions is because
> Guatemala is next door to Honduras. I have *been in* adobe huts in
> Honduras with dirt floors, no plumbing, no electricity, no glass in
the
> windows (and not really any windows, just holes cut into the adobe
with
> wood shutters over them), and not a paved road within 100 miles.

I have been in similar dewllings in the Alabama. So what? The point
is you are arguing from particulars to a general situation that has
nothing to do with reality.

I have been in the Presidential Palace in Guatemala. It has tile
floors. So what?

http://www.kansasfolks.net/Guatemala/Eric/pix/98&99/5.jpg

>
> I kinda doubt that Guatemala is all that different from Honduras,
Bill.

Then why didn't you talk about Honduras then? Your commentary doesn't
really make sense. The point is, that it doesn't matter where any
nation starts out. Because when the conditions for growth are present,
those nations, regardless of how poor they start out, have the
potential to grow at 7% to 10% - which doubles income levels every 7 to
10 years - and allows the creation of a very wealthy nation in a
generation!

> What about you, you ever been to the Third World?

Yes. Absolutely. But unlike you I see the potential of people not
their shortcomings.

> > http://www.viviun.com/AD-14716/
> >
> > Note the hardwood floors and running water - oh, and the address!
>
> erm, the address of this house is in *Panama*, Bill. Which is, like,
a
> whole other country and stuff.

??? Really, are you sure you weren't looking at the address of the
Realtor?

http://www.panajachel.biz/realestate/realestate.html

Well, here's another one then.

The point is, you can find really nice houses throughout the world,
including places you disparage because you imply they don't know what a
hardwood floor is. ***.

>
> >>>Because wealth is created not taken.
> >>
> >>actually, it's both, in that order
> >
> >
> > No, if you take something from someone you diminish its value,
>
> not to the person taking it, nope.

This marks you off as a crook. I guess its pointless to talk with you
about wealth and how its created, you're a damned thief! To explain to
you the basis of wealth creation would mean I'd have to change your
moral orientation, and well, that's a whole lot harder than explaining
simple truths. So, to hell with you.

[snip!]