Re: USS San Francisco Follow-up

"Greg D. Moore \(Strider\)" <mooregr_deleteth1s@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/18/national/18crash.html?
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>Since this was discussed here before thought I'd bring it up again.
>One interesting comment on page 5:
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>" The accident has also stirred concerns - dating back to the advent of
>nuclear submarines under the legendary admiral Hyman G. Rickover - that Navy
>training places more emphasis on engineering than on skills like navigation
>"
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>I also found it interesting they could not get the stretcher through the
>hatch at the top of the sail. You'd think this would have been tested for
>previously? Though it's not clear from the comment if the hatch didn't open
>a fill 90 degrees by design or as a result of the accident.

I haven't been through the bridge trunk of a 688, but our bridge hatch
certainly did. (Doesn't Clancy's 'Submarine' have a picture of a 688
trunk?) IIRC the handle on the bottom of the hatch did protrude
somewhat into cylinder defined by extending the clear area of the
hatch upwards.

It should be pointed out that on 688's the main evacuation route is
supposed to the weapons shipping hatch forward of the sail, not the
bridge trunk.

>Though from the sound of the previous paragraph, cutting railings in order
>to move the patient through the boat struck me as odd.

I suspect this is a mangling of "cutting railings to provide an
improved route that was easier on the patient". I.E. they could take
a rougher route with the railings in place, or smooth the path
somewhat.

>One question if Derek or others could answer: what form of stretcher is
>common on ships like this?

I forget the name of it, but if Frisco is equipped as we were - the
stretcher is a wire basket in which the patient could be laid and
strapped in. It doesn't (didn't) have provisions for immobilizing the
head - which, given the individuals injuries, may have lead to the
decision to cut away railing/stanchions/etc...

>Anyway, the article is also interesting as it discusses (w/o enough detail
>for my taste) what appears tobe a confluence of factors leading to the
>accident, not any single mistake.

No surprise, that's generally the case.

I've been saying for years that we are overdue to lose one - and that
the most likely time was when coming home, as things tend to start
slacking off. This accident is terrifyingly close to that scenario.

D.
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Oct 5th, 2004 JDL
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