Re: Cos-B: 30 Years On (Forwarded)
- From: fairwater@xxxxxxxxx (Derek Lyons)
- Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 20:15:17 GMT
Pat Flannery <flanner@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>Dale wrote:
>
>>>In *theory* they've been built in historical times - but there is no
>>>real evidence that they were.
>>>
>>
>>And even if they were, they likely used iron bands to keep things
>>together. I suppose one of Noah's sons might have been into metal :)
>>
>
>The biggest ones found were the Lake Nemi ships in Italy AFAIK
>http://college.hmco.com/history/readerscomp/ships/html/sh_063900_nemiships.htm
Barges on an inland lake - fairly trivial to build as large as
desired.
>Other big ones were Ptolemy IV's huge and unwieldy "Forty" at 420 feet
>by 57 feet wide:
>http://www.mlahanas.de/Greeks/GiantShips.htm
A text description - and the ancients *never* exaggerated.
>The "Isis" grain transport ship:
>http://college.hmco.com/history/readerscomp/ships/html/sh_049300_isis.htm
A text description - and the ancients *never* exaggerated.
>And perhaps most intriguingly, the giant cargo ships of the Chinese
>trading fleet at around 400 feet in length.
>Although exact sizes are hard to determine due to different
>interpretations of the Chinese units of measurement being used (length
>could have been from 390 to 408 feet and have a beam of 160 to 166 feet)
>the ruins of the dry-docks they were built in still exist,
No, channels were found - and posited to be dry docks with little
evidence. (That they might be basins of the same kind we routinely
build today seems never to have been considered.)
>and could have handled ships of that size: http://www.answers.com/topic/zheng-he
>http://www.international.ucla.edu/ccs/article.asp?parentid=10387
More text descriptions....
The whole affair of Zheng He's ships is a shining example of what
happens when politics and racism replace science.
D.
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