Re: Lunochod 1 and 2 mission photos..

ISS,
Have you noticed how all of the Usenet folks and spooks are so deeply
focused upon those supposed surface images that oddly do not match up
with images obtained from orbit. Oddly there's not a fly-by-rocket word
of such hard-rocket-science upon such absolutely nifty AI/robotic
technology to being touted, much less forking over any film footage of
prototypes to being shared. It's as though the smoke and mirrors of
whatever's fly-by-rocket is just perfectly fine and dandy spookism as
is, without a shred of evidence or even the slightest observational
demonstrations, as in having shared nothing whatsoever. The same goes
for our NASA/Apollo of supposedly deploying our robotics and of our
supposed real thing that's still so totally fantastic nearly 50 years
after the fact. I guess I didn't realize that our NASA was God, if not
better than any God.

http://www.enlight.ru/ib/tech/vtm/vniitm.pdf
A bit more extensive (47 page) rover and probe info summary. However,
as usual having excluded all fly-by-rocket technology of the essential
R&D plus trial & error proof-testing that would have insured the likely
possibility of their safely deploying via soft-landing such rovers
without having to involve impacting the lunar surface. What we need is
a similar 47 page summary report with hot links to their actual film
footage of the all essential R&D proof-testing of such prototype
AI/robotic fly-by-rocket landers.

Soviet Moon Images: http://www.mentallandscape.com/C_CatalogMoon.htm
This being a wee bit of a large/extensive site to download is why I
haven't managed to obtain a full look-see. However, of what I've seen
thus far is perfectly fine and dandy of what's obtained from orbit, but
otherwise sucks as for representing disinformation once upon the deck.

Zond-7: "It shot 35 pictures with the SKD camera and 300 mm objective,
on 5.6 × 5.6 cm frames of color and panchromatic film."
Not knowing their applied optical spectrum filters, of what's still
most interesting about Zond-7 is that it robotically had
photographically outperformed even our Apollo orbital images by way of
capturing a full Earth depicted above the moon that's representing
itself as a relatively dark reddish/brown surface. If Earth is
typically worth 36% albedo, and if the moon being supposedly of a 12%
average albedo, then where's the problem of other images having
included the likes of folks subsequently recording the likes of Venus,
Jupiter and even a somewhat dim Mars above the lunar horizon, then of
course the Sirius star system which must have been in hiding (WMD
stealth mode) as never to being seen. As with our surface obtained
images having those white moonsuits, providing an albedo standard of
roughly 80% (perhaps 85% if squeaky clean) is exactly the same as for
the white spacecraft item as having been typically seen within many of
the Russian images of the extremely bright/reflective contrast of their
moon which simply can not be the case unless they'd landed on some
other moon by mistake.

Here's just some of the officially NASA/Apollo cetified as good and
perfectly believable shots of the moon from the safety of their
potentially robotic orbit as being several hundred km off the deck,
showing us of all things, good old mother Earth and the extremely dark
albedo of our moon within the very same solar illuminated frame. Take
most any image; such as AS11-44-6554, AS11-44-6639 or AS11-44-6648, and
there's certainly lots more of what's believable from orbit, as from
where these came from.
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/apollo/catalog/70mm/magazine/?44

At the verry least, the supposed Luna-16 recovered and photographed
samples looked somewhat as a dark reddish/brown. However, I had no idea
that once actually upon the surface is when all such colors and even
the 12% albedo contrast vanishes into less than thin sodium, argon and
a radon composite of lunar atmosphere, with the terrain becoming a very
thin and light grayish layer of mostly portland cement and cornmeal
like, having a 55+% albedo.

As I've said before, there's no doubt in my mindset that we've
robotically orbited our moon, having taken sufficient images by
camera/film and via the very best video cameras of the day, of which
entirely proves that other significant objects besides Earth could have
and should have been capably included as above the horizon within a few
of the supposedly surface obtained images.

Personally, I have no doubts whatsoever that these terrestrial rover
prototypes existed and were fully R&D demonstrated as scaled in mass in
order to simulate operating upon the moon, as well as I have no doubts
whatsoever that their fully scaled and thus full mass worth of the
actual landers along with their robotic rovers were sent to the moon
with every intentions of their getting those machines safely deployed,
just like we had been doing everything we could for making our robotics
plus manned landers and rovers get safely onto the lunar deck. Too bad
there's still no viable way of folks seeing any fly-by-rocket
demonstrations as to demonstrating how it's possible to safely manage
soft landings upon the moon, or even safely upon the local parking lot.

http://epizodsspace.testpilot.ru/bibl/gubarev/hronika/foto.html
Notice how their terrestrial photograph offers a terrain that looks
exactly as though it's situated upon the dark and nasty moon. Notice
how the wheels from the terrestiral R&D prototypes are not sinking in
because of the unit having been scaled in order to represent itself as
though being upon the moon. Supposedly upon the moon, notice how slight
of depth the extremely fine lunar soil represents itself, and how gosh
darn surface clean, smooth and nicely reflective for as far as their
camera eye could see.

http://www.anoca.org/lunar/lunokhod/luna_17.html
http://selena.sai.msu.ru/Home/Spacecrafts/Lunokhod1/lunokhod1.htm
Luna 17: notice the open mesh wheels that probably couldn't manage to
spread and share the mass of the fairly massive robotic rover at not
much below 200 g/cm2. That's not half bad lunar surface tension
capability for having to support a 5700/6 = 950 lunar kg upon such a
thick layer of what should have been extremely dark micro-dust as
supposedly upon a multi-billion year coated lunar terrain that should
have become meters deep in places, limited to perhaps as little as a
dry quick-sand capable of sustaining all of 5 g/cm2. However, as for a
load shared upon 8 modus wheels of 51 cm diameter offering perhaps at
the very best upon average 600 cm2 of accommodating individual surface
contact/support each, thus 600 x 8 = 4800 cm2. 933,000/4800 = 194 g/cm2
seems a wee bit on the hefty side of what yet another nifty Rusky
cold-war method of spookology and by their usual smoke and mirror
tricks of disinformation infomercials managed to have pulled off.

Lunokhod 2 / Luna 18 lander and rover together weighed 1814 kg
Lunokhod 2 Rover itself represented 5,750 kg/6 = 958 kg lunar mass upon
8 wheels of a solid tread, although somewhere I've seen a few 6 wheeled
versions (of somewhat larger diameter wheels as quite possibly
prototypes) which only seems to beg yet another question or two.

http://selena.sai.msu.ru/Home/Spacecrafts/Lunokhod2/lunokhod2.htm
Notice how their obviously terrestrial photograph of the rover profile
was situated upon a relatively dark test soil, and then once supposedly
situated upon the moon the actual lunar soil is suddenly of a fairly
light contrasting substance that's in places reflecting at nearly 65%,
with the majority of their lunar soil depicted as nearly or above 55%
albedo, without hardly a meteorite or secondary impact shards of dark
lunar basalt nor any other significant local items of any dark
substances in sight. There even a white item of roughly 80% albedo as
offering a good optical albedo reference.

http://pages.preferred.com/~tedstryk/lunokhod2.html
Notice how never once was there a video including any significant
portion above the horizon. Apparently those USSR cameras were so
terribly crude that they couldn't adjust their frame by frame exposures
or having pointed them so as to have easily recorded a couple of other
planets and the likes of the Sirius star system as they should have
appeared above some portion of the extremely dark and nasty lunar
horizon, as could have been easily camera/image recorded.

Notice how undusty (little if any fine power of carbon/soot, salts,
iron, titanium and of local basalt shards as having essentially no
depth to that substance) but rather more or less as though a
terrestrial heavy looking soil plus common terrestrial sand like, along
with a lunar terrain was offering such a terrific amount surface
tension capability which was traction clumping as good if not better
than upon Earth.

"Ruskies in space #3"
http://www.modernman.com/forums/DCForumID24/785.html
Notice how they have terrific passive images of their technology which
seems as though having taken absolutely no actual fly-by-rocket
deployment R&D, therefore not having any film documenting of their
prototype landers being capable of safely arriving, as in real action
footage of prototypes that could have easily been scaled down by simply
excluding internal batteries, instruments and other excess inert mass
in order to have matched lunar mass for simulating on behalf of
accomplishing their terrestrial trial and error runs. It's called
fly-by-rocket research, engineering and actual field drop
proof-testing.

Notice how each of their landings were entirely rocket thrust crater or
blast-zone free, and otherwise how totally dust free their landing
sites and explorations were managed. Almost as though having been
placed by a crane or helicopter and cable lift instead of having used
rocket thrust.

Notice how the very best images of their supposed fly-by-rocket lander
is that of line-drawing and/or of an artist conception, and otherwise
never once sharing any link to any actual film footage of their
prototype technology in action. Perhaps that's because insufficient
reaction wheels simply were not available at the same time, as well as
sufficiently modulated rocket engines were not exactly available or at
least not sufficiently developed for actual AI/robotic usage.
-
Brad Guth

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