Re: OT- the state of the union
- From: "David M. Palmer" <dmpalmer@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 10:01:42 -0600
In article <z4L_g.17838$Zn1.5734@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Terrell
Miller <millerto@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"Pat Flannery" <flanner@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:12jgttsl1tjf24a@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
And if you somehow think Habeas Corpus has not been suspended for Americanahem:
citizens but only for everybody else, ask yourself this: If you are pulled
off the street tomorrow, and they call you an alien or an undocumented
immigrant or an "unlawful enemy combatant" - exactly how are you going to
convince them to give you a court hearing to prove you are not? Do you
think this Attorney General is going to help you?
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=109_cong_bills
&docid=f:s3930enr.txt.pdf
<snipping to the relevant parts>
''(1) UNLAWFUL ENEMY COMBATANT.-(A) The term 'unlawful....
enemy combatant' means-
''(ii) a person who, before, on, or after the date of
the enactment of the Military Commissions Act of 2006,
has been determined to be an unlawful enemy combatant
by a Combatant Status Review Tribunal or another competent
tribunal established under the authority of the
President or the Secretary of Defense.
Is there anywhere in the act that gives you the right for you and
counsel to appear before this tribunal before, during or after you have
been determined to be an unlawful enemy combatant?
It does explicitly state that there is no right to a speedy trial.
(948b. d A) But a trial, when and if it occurs, would only be for
additional "violations of the law of war and other offenses triable by
military commission."
When the tribunal, of one or more people picked by the President*,
declares that you** are an unlawful enemy combatant, then you _are_ an
unlawful enemy combatant, even if your only crime is aggravated
swarthiness and conspiracy to commit facial hair.
*Bush or Hillary--what goes around comes around.
**Or everyone on a list that includes you, or someone with
a similar name (like on the no-fly list).
Always help to actually read the material you are criticizing and see what
it actually says and includes, y'know?
Hell yes.
--
David M. Palmer dmpalmer@xxxxxxxxx (formerly @clark.net, @ematic.com)
.
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