Re: planetary heat losses

On Aug 11, 11:24 am, Damien Valentine <valen...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Aug 9, 5:19 pm, Darrell Lakin <darrellla...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

All the outer planets radiate much more heat than they receive in
energy from the sun. All that is except Uranus which radiates
negligable energy not received from the sun...
What if Uranus is colder
because its much older than the other planets?

What exactly do you mean by "older"? That the material comprising
Uranus is somehow older than the rest of the Solar System? Or are you
proposing some other theory?

I've learned not to take cosmological statements on Usenet at their
immediate, common-sense meaning.

We believe lots of stuff is older than our solar system, and perhaps
some items like Venus as being potentially somewhat less old since
their last planetology make-over trauma.

This following is a typical honest usenet chat or perhaps mainstream
status quo roast, that's ongoing between Darrell and myself within
another similar topic. Too bad that it's all so taboo/nondisclosure
rated as to the all-knowing naysay mindset of the typical Yiddish
swarm, that which can't hardly think independently inside of their own
box, much less outside.

Darrell:
My experience here on the usenet is that not many are familiar with
early solar system orbit swapping, near miss, and ejection theory.

They are actually all too very familiar with everything under that sun
which shines down upon their flat Earth, as well as their having
access to the very best of our 3D interactive orbital simulators along
with our spendy supercomputers, though I might agree that some folks
as mainstream status quo minions (easily spotted by their brown nose)
are rather snookered and thus easily dumbfounded, and that's just the
tip of our badly polluted and melting iceberg of infomercial physics
and skewed in order to suit whatever faith-based science, of
representing what most usenet folks as being other than whomever they
pretend to be, as most often having been opposing all that's off-world
unless it's totally inert, meaning dead as a door nail and especially
forbid as for such research not capable of revising one damn thing is
absolutely essential to sustaining their swarm like naysay mindset.


I also buy off on the post Apollo moon formation
theory of a Mars sized impactor on an early but completely formed
"earth". That way the moon could have been completely molten all at
once as the rocks suggest.

Buy yourself into all that you like, as there's no actual evidence of
Earth having that moon as of prior to 12,000 BP, only conjecture and
theory upon theory that's obviously well published into most every
other faith-base accepted textbook and science journal you can find,
as though it's the one and only word of their typically Jewish God.
Sorry about all that.


A body the size of the moon could not
retain this heat for many years and of course it is probably
completely cold today. I am unfamiliar with all this talk of heat
loss measurement, the lunar L1 designation etc. You realize that
classical thermodynamics will come into play here and that heat
losses will always vary with time and will not stay linear. Also
consider the largely molten state of the earth 4-1/2 billion years
after its formation when none of the other planets have been able to
perform this feat. That also suggests a large collision of a
magnitude that probably formed a large moon whose rocks suggest it
was also completely molten at one time.

There is still no direct measurements of the moon's geothermal cache
of whatever core energy, such as per whatever's leaving its physically
dark surface. Obviously you don't get it, that our salty old moon of
either having an unusually low density (perhaps salty) core, or
otherwise being somewhat hollow, of which this extremely nearby and
massive orb that's keeping Earth a little extra warm from the inside
out is simply not made of Earth, and it's not that the moon itself
couldn't have impacted Earth via a glancing blow and of its
lithobraking/icebraking arrival upon its marry way of having migrated
itself into our realm, of having deposited itself into becoming the
naked moon of Earth.


My interest is in an exposed planetary core of a past gas giant or
ice giant. I do not believe there are two molecules of hydrogen at
their core. There is rock and iron enough all the way out to the Ort
Cloud. So there is rock enough and iron enough to be at the core of
Jupiter under all that metallic hydrogen. Now imagine the sun going
nova and stripping all that away. There would be left a core of
largely iron with a layer of rock overlaying it (maybe 3/4 to 1/4 ?)
and the possibility of exotic materials laying on its surface formed
from the rock/iron mix from its metallic hyrogen influenced and
stellar nova influenced days.

Possibilities?

Darrell Lakin

Possibilities; you can bet your bottom dollar there's possibilities.

For example, ice is actually a good interstellar thermal insulator and
offering an even better radiation shield on behalf of accommodating
small, large and complex DNA life as we know it, especially if such
ice is extra thick and better yet if such Oort cloud accumulated ice
became a little salty. My theory is that of a rogue planet along with
its icy moon of perhaps 4000 km in diameter, having a rocky and
somewhat salty core of 7.35e22 kg, as for this icy moon or possibly
the rogue planet itself having once upon a time impacted Earth at a
glancing blow, thereby established and of that moon having ever since
sustained our seasonal tilt, and this nifty encounter from such a
rogue item happened well after the peak of the very last ice age this
humanly over populated Earth is ever going to see, causing antipode
generated mountains and established a spare ocean basin here and
there, as well as having unavoidably contributed some extent of its
salty ice.

You do realize that the very same face of Venus is still somewhat
tidal locked to Earth, don't you.

I totally agree with your analogy of there having been and still being
such nifty interstellar rogue planets along with a few of those
potentially icy moons to boot. If a brown dwarf or especially of any
significant black dwarf star is headed our way, as such we could be in
for serious trouble in River City (sort of speak), if not on the
receiving end of obtaining another planet or moon for our solar system
if all goes according to plan.

There's supposedly a missing 97% worth of the universe that's out
there, and even if 0.1% of that 97% is comprised of those pesky rogue
brown and black dwarf stars along with a few spare binary/trinary iron
orbs worth of their planets and icy moons, as such that's a lot of
potential mass and worthy items to pick from.

You'd also think that a given brown or black dwarf star represents a
fairly old sucker, such as 10s of billions of years older than our
solar system's star that's apparently so gosh darn passive that it
illuminates upon our guano island looking moon that's somehow
anticathode immune to cosmic gamma, as well as otherwise looking
exactly as though it were being passively xenon arc lamp spectrum
illuminated, thus somehow offering hardly any UV and next to zilch
worth of gamma or Xrays, and of somehow making the likes of Venus as
invisible as Muslim WMD. I'm not kidding, that is if you absolutely
must believe in anything NASA/Apollo.
- Brad Guth

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