Re: What is the Crew Exploration Vehicle supposed to be?

From: Dave O'Neill (_at_)
Date: 08/07/04 

Date: Sat, 07 Aug 2004 12:12:03 GMT

"Rand Simberg" <newsgroups@transterrestrial.com> wrote in message
news:AXLQc.10750$9Y6.1849@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> Dave O'Neill wrote:
>
> >>Note that I did say "roughly analagous". But I would like to see you try
to
> >>sell or operate an airliner without a standard airworthiness
certificate.
> >
> >
> > I seem to recall Rand likes the idea of the "Certified Passenger" - I
> > might be wrong on that. So that in the model I've seen him suggest,
> > the craft will be rated as a launch vehicle and the "cargo" has to
> > demonstrate ability to fly.
>
> That model has been suggested, but the current regulations are moving in
> the direction of "fly at your own risk."
>
> > This looks like a sensible initial move, but it will limit adoption
> > and isn't much use for a business handling significant volumes.
>
> Why not?

Because I think it will limit the ability to get enough people for the
"Space Development" you talk about.

> > I suppose you could run this out of Russia/Australia or other
> > countries - Eric Anderson talks about this in MSNBC today.
> >
> > Rand disagrees (heh) but at some point people are going to start
> > pushing for airline like rules for passenger carrying vehicles and as
> > others have pointed out it could cause the space tourism business to
> > be still born.
>
> This is totally incoherent. Of course "at some point" people will push
> for airline-like rules,

Right... incoherent and yet you grasped the point. Amazing!

just as, at some point, they did for airlines.
> That has nothing to do with how the business will get started, and that
> point is a long way off. The important thing is that that point not be
> at the beginning.

The important thing is that that point is nowhere near the beginning.

There's a really important difference and it's just one of the flaws in
space tourism development model.

Dave

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