Re: Musings on Nasa and the Concept of Truth.

From: Jonathan (anon_at_earthlink.com)
Date: 08/10/04 

Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2004 22:37:47 -0400

"Dennis M. Hammes" <scrawlmark@arvig.net> wrote in message
news:4117A48A.D6ABE435@arvig.net...
> Sander Vesik wrote:
> >
> > In sci.space.policy Jonathan <anon@earthlink.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I agree completely. But much of the world fervently believes in
> > > a personal god. This discovery would show that we are but
> > > a drop in an ocean of life. It would be a direct challenge to
> > > fundamentalists and creationists all over the world.
> >
> > Really? want to give a cite for the "much of the world fervently
> > believes in a personal god"? Because unless you do some very radical
> > restrictiuons of what the world is, it does not appear to be anywhere
> > near truth.
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > >
> > > The daily paper constantly drips with the blood of such religious
> > > extremism, we fear sparking more of it with good reason.
> >
> > Maybe you should move town?
> >
> > > >
> > > > Scientific truth is *not* subject to majority vote. On some matters,
> > > > interpretations abound, but whatever the final facts are, they are
> > > > independent of wether 51% believe in them, or not.
> > >
> > >
> > > I completely disagree.
> > >
> > >
> > > Truth is that which is unchanging, fixed or predictable. Such as
> > > the great 'laws' and 'facts' of science.
> > >
> > > Please point to me one thing in the universe that is unchanging, fixed
> > > or predictable. JUST ONE THING!
> >
> > The rest masses of elemntary particles.
>
> The charge quantities of elementary particles.
> The spin of elementary particles.
> The valence thresholds of elements.
> The Fraunhofer lines at various e = hv.
> E = W + h.
> Quantity is bounded by itself.

Neither of you have heard of the uncertainty principle
or even gravity...have you?

None of the above constitute an object, but a few
properties. None of those properties exist in isolation and
every particle in the universe is in motion.

>
> (He /really/ hates that last one.)
> >
> > >
> > > The only 'truth' of the universe is that there is ...no...truth.
> > > There is only what we believe to be true, and we arrive at those
> > > 'truths' by consensus.
> >
> > Bull***.
>
> Yes, he did misspell "consensus," dintee.
> >
> > >
> > > Jonathan
> > >
> > > s
> > >
> > Sander
> >
> > +++ Out of cheese error +++
>
> Heh. Suffer that myself.
>
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