Re: George W. Bush for President

From: glbrad01 (glbrad01_at_insightbb.com)
Date: 11/05/04 

Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2004 14:26:03 GMT

"Ool" <ulrich.schreglmann@t-online.de> wrote in message
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> "Rand Simberg" <simberg.interglobal@org.trash> wrote in message
> news:41abc2a6.413496816@newsgroups.bellsouth.net...
>
>> And of course, Fallujah is about to start to see a rapid drop in the
>> number of terrorists. At least breathing ones.
>
> Oh, you pathetic @#$% for brains! You said about the invasion of Iraq
> that it would bring about peace and defeat the terrorist threat there.
> It didn't. You killed umpty of their people and still more and more
> oppose you. You've had as many casualties in the most recent two
> months of the ever-continuing conflict as you had in the first two
> months of the invasion.
>
> You don't get it, do you? No, don't answer that! It was rhetorical.
>
> Next year, if the news is still the same as today, will you still keep
> claiming that if only that next village over there is burned to the
> ground the enemy will be finally defeated for good?
>
> Well, reality is that which won't go away even if you stop believing
> in it. And this won't go away...
>
>
>> <rest of hilariously foolish commentary about incompetence of Bush and
>> the American electorate snipped and further ignored>
>
> Well, enjoy the hilarity! After all it is your tax dollars financing
> this and your guys getting killed, so why should you not be enter-
> tained at least? The other nations are all quitting on you. The
> much-forgotten Poland is moving out. Hungary is. Doctors Without
> Borders just moved out of the place because it's just too dangerous.
>
> In the end it'll be just your heavily armed military and a population
> who hates you. Hilarious indeed! What a nutty paranoid rambler I am
> and how amusing this must all be for you!
>
>
> The one comfort I have about all this that at least Bush has to deal
> with the messes he's created himself now, not some poor successor who
> didn't start it. Everything that happens now will be in his face.
> It makes you almost think there is a God...

  You are a fool. The British just moved up a large force to the southern
Baghdad area to replace 1st Cavalry units moving up in support of U. S.
Marines and Iraqi Army forces engaged, and soon to be even more engaged, in
the Fallujah pocket. They, the British, were able to do this because Iraqi
law enforcement and Iraqi military forces are increasingly taking charge of
the situation in the rear areas south of the only insurgents that still
really matter in Iraq, those in the once Sunni Baathist stronghold of the
Sunni triangle, with Fallujah as the principle focal point.

  Where did you get your FACTS, if they are facts rather than something you
made up on the spur of the moment, concerning Poland and Hungary leaving the
coalition? This is the first I've heard of it and I'm usually on top of
these things because I try hard to be. Polish president Aleksander
Kwasniewski just not long ago had this to say concerning Kerry: "It is
really sad that a senator with 20 years of experience does not notice the
Polish input into the coalition and the Polish sacrifice. It is immoral."
IMMORAL! After that, I have no doubt at all that Poland and Hungary, among
many others probably, might have issued some form of warning statement to
their own peoples that if the American people were so jaded, corrupt,
callous and unaware, so ignorant and stupid, as to elect John Kerry the
President of the United States they would have no choice but to leave the
coalition soonest. They believed nations must hang together or hang
separately in this war against increasingly well organized and coordinated
structures of world terrorism as the instruments and world-class terrorist
states as the sanctuaries, suppliers, financiers, and prime movers with
their own agendas for after the weakening of the West. These people think
and move in terms of decades to centuries if necessary just as long as they
see steady progress being made in their chipping away, chip by chip, by
chip, by chip, a unrelenting war primarily of thousands upon thousands,
millions, of little cuts.

  The European Union has just about realized it has been had by Iran
concerning [its] nuclear program. Something Bush warned them about long ago.
The EU ask Bush to let it try and work something out relative to Iran and
Bush told them to go ahead. Anything reasonable they could come up with we
would go with. Now, it appears the Bush administration was right every which
way it could have been right in this. It looks like the EU, meaning
principally Britain, France, and Germany, with the United States, is getting
ready to approach the Security Council and demand full sanctions be put in
place against Iran. They nations in league will probably get them unless
either China or Russia, or both, for NATIONAL rather than international
reasons, reasons special to one or the other NATION, veto sanctions.

  In any case the EU (principally France and Germany, though Britain's Tony
Blair has been elected to speak for them all to the UNITED STATES at large,
including President George W. Bush) is now in a world-class pickle--of their
own making--in wanting to take the lead concerning Iran. Brilliantly, for a
whole host of immense reasons, Bush's administration agreed. The EU has been
humiliated, literally made a fool of, by an Iran virtually treating them as
nobodies and doubledog daring them to do anything about it. Iran can only
have been betting heavily, betting the farm practically, on a Kerry victory
in the elections in the United States to do what it did with regard to the
European Union's proposals and negotiations. Bush's victory instead has
changed the picture totally for Iran. That election victory practically puts
Iran up against the wall, rather than in the driver's seat, and anyone in
the world with half a brain knows it (meaning radical anti-war and
anti-military, pro-"international policemen", pro-"tribute" payments to
terrorist organizations and states rather than payment in cold steel)
Liberals here in the United States don't know it, never did know it, and
never would have known it until far too late).

  Tony Blair of Britain, integral to both the Coalition and the European
Union, seems to have been selected by the EU to not only issue a call to us
Americans but state the problem as the EU sees it in the hearing of the
world: particularly in the hearing of the problem child. France and Germany,
among others in the EU, said they would do nothing militarily with regard to
Iraq. Eventually that may not be even the possible case with regard to Iran.
Will they now wiggle and cower before an Iran that led them on and
humiliated them, finally calling their bluff when it was led to believe a
Kerry victory was in the bag? Are they now hoping that the one man in the
entire world Iran just may fear, his unexpected victory and "mandate", might
just cause it to back up, think twice, and come back to the negotiating
table, toned way down in rhetoric (as the Soviet Union toned its rhetoric
way down when Reagan was re-elected. America--all of it but the anti-war,
anti-military, pro-"Peace In Our Time" Liberal Socialist (useful idiot)
fellow travelers of Communism--calling its bluff)?

  Most of the leaders of the world's nations know when another leader is a
strong willed and wise man or a weak willed and stupid man. Bush is patented
and copyrighted "strong willed and wise." And lucky to boot. Even his
mistakes seem to have turned out far better than if he had not made any.
Thousands of Islamic terrorists who would otherwise have been spread out and
quite busy elsewhere in the world are right now concentrated in Iraq. A
whole lot of those are now concentrated in the Fallujah pocket with the
Sunni Baathist insurgents surrounded by the U. S. Marines, the new model
Iraqi Army, and in support and ready to move in if necessary, elements of
the 1st Cavalry Division of the U. S. Army. They aren't here in North
America, in South America, in Europe, and in Africa and Asia (particularly
Pakistan and Afghanistan), loaded for bear and striking at every Western or
Western friendly target of opportunity, people and/or facilities, they can
find. Some are of course, but thousands of fanatical, plus just plain
mercenary, Islamic terrorist types who would be aren't. In Iraq, they've got
their own heads in the tightening noose they planned for us in vertical
terrained Afghanistan plus everywhere else loose in the world. Iraq is the
heart and belly of their sanctuary in the Middle East. They could not, they
cannot possibly, leave it lay for even a moment. Like moths to a light, by
accidentally moving too fast to begin with, and now by the simple accident
of having just waited so long to move, the Coalition has drawn thousands of
them into an opportunistic trap (an opportunistic killing field).

  Only one thing has made this whole eventuality even possible. The great
bulk of the Iraqi people, like the great bulk of the Afghan people, having
already voted for President Bush and what he has managed in their
country--regardless of inevitable trials and errors and restarts along the
way--even before we did in ours. He has gained their respect--and their
admiration. Putin put it best of all in throwing his full weight behind
President Bush for re-election as President of the United States, going
against the grain of his own usual kind in the world. Sometimes the world
and its times need, and find, just one rare man for a particular job that
needs doing rather than any collective of the many. In this world in these
times we could not afford the (obviously) weaker man. The great majority of
Americans agreed completely. Left unsaid and made conspicuous by omission,
just what did Clinton and Gore do in the prior eight years of their
administration? His international policing, almost feminine meals on wheels
"sensitive" military and his and its popgun military responses to attacks
did nothing whatsoever but embolden the enemies of civilization itself to go
for bigger targets and increasingly bigger and more coordinated forms of
attack.

  I must admit that I predicted President Bush could not do what he and his
administration has managed to do so far. Unless we break out into the space
frontier in a big way though, it will all have been for naught. Unless we
open up that new frontier, and thereby open up this old world in and with it
once more, nothing that anyone does will slow much, much less stop, the
onslaught of a more or less hi-tech Dark Age. There never has been any
workable alternative to civilization's Dark Ages other than civilization's
Space Ages. There can never be any other alternatives. Increasingly radical
psycho-babble about some Utopian Babel or Paradise of All Mankind--including
humans evolving to gods with god-like powers--on Earth, are the common stuff
of history that finally pushes increasingly jaded and corrupt civilizations
over the cliff of their decline and fall into Dark Age. We've been in it for
almost a hundred years since Dark Age is little more than total wars being
fought endlessly in just about every sphere of life. Barbarism and
savageries of every kind just keep on winning relentlessly, regardless of
occasional setbacks.

Brad

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