Re: George W. Bush for President
From: glbrad01 (glbrad01_at_insightbb.com)
Date: 11/06/04
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Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2004 20:17:02 GMT
"Kelly McDonald sympatico.ca>" <kellymcdonald@<nospam> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 19:46:36 +0000 (UTC), echomko_at_@polaris.umuc.edu
> (Eric Chomko) wrote:
>
>>Rand Simberg (simberg.interglobal@org.trash) wrote:
>>: On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 15:07:20 +0100, in a place far, far away, "Ool"
>>: <ulrich.schreglmann@t-online.de> made the phosphor on my monitor glow
>>: in such a way as to indicate that:
>>
>>: >"Rand Simberg" <simberg.interglobal@org.trash> wrote in message
>>news:41bdfef7.428937819@newsgroups.bellsouth.net...
>>: >
>>: >> He also harbored many terrorists, like Abu Nidal, and members of Al
>>: >> Qaeda, and ran terrorist training camps.
>>: >
>>: >Abu Nidal was "suicided" in Iraq in 2002, when Iraqi officials stormed
>>: >his place.
>>
>>: Yes, for some reason Saddam suddenly found him inconvenient just
>>: before the war.
>>
>>: >Any training camps you speak of were in the Kurdish north, over which
>>: >Saddam had no control.
>>
>>: Salman Pak wasn't.
>>
>>: >Look, this is pointless! I know you'll repeat your stupid assertions
>>: >till the cows come home, and it may be easy to convince some redneck
>>: >in the "Heartland," who couldn't even find the US on a world map, let
>>: >alone Iraq, that "all those towelhead Mid-Easterners were in bed with
>>: >each other and Bush saved the world for you."
>>
>>: Yes, continue to "misunderestimate" us, and think us all stupid
>>: rednecks. That's how you'll reconcile.
>>
>>: >But other nations know
>>: >the truth. They can't be duped like those of your own populance,
>>: >whose news media you have control over and whose education you ne-
>>: >glected while teaching creationism and arguing about prayer in public
>>: >schools.
>>
>>: You are so fundamentally ignorant of America, and so unwilling to
>>: learn, that there's probably little point in even having a discussion.
>>
>>What part exactly is so off base? You see the "blue" states and the "red"
>>states don't you? Joe Sixpack and Betty Brownbag got Bush elected because
>>enough people from Ohio came out to vote against the same sex marriage
>>issue. THAT is the level of what swung this election to Bush. Face it,
>>Rand, rural America is pretty damn ignorant. I've lived in Germany. If the
>>Germans can managed to clone the EU education-wise, then we're in trouble.
>>We'd better hope that the Muslims cripple then in a manner to slow them
>>down, because the pace in which West Germany grew from after WWII to 1965
>>was astounding. Factor in reunification and now the EU; if what West
>>Germnay did in 20 years gets replicated throughout the EU successfully,
>>then we'll have a powerhouse on our hands with nukes and outnumbered 3 to
>>4.
>
> Then why do exit polls show that college graduates were evenly split
> between Bush and Kerry (49% vs. 49%).
>
> People with no high-school diploma edged out in favor of Kerry (50%
> vs. 49%)
>
> Sure big cities support Kerry (60% vs. 39%), but small cities were
> split (49%) and the burbs favored Bush (52% vs 47%)
>
> Plus anyone making over $50,000 a year was more likely to vote for
> Bush.
>
> As long as the Democrats continue to blame their loss on poorly
> eduated white christian wingnuts, they will continue to loose
> elections. Remember the 1/3 rule. In general 1/3 of people will vote
> Republican no matter what, another 1/3 will vote Democrat no matter
> what. It's the last 1/3 that choose who wins, and as long as you keep
> calling them uneducated morons they arn't going to vote for you.
>
> Kelly McDonald
The biggest falsehood being put forth is that democratic elections today
are still just between two or three "political parties" of one generally
united people having some greater common bond that unites them all.
Americans, as Americans, were spinoff people of other peoples. People who
were more different from the parent trunks of originating peoples but less
different from each other. They had more in common with each other than the
vast majority of them had in common with those they originated from. The new
spinoff, in and of itself, did not make them (we Americans) anything greater
than the originating peoples. What did make them generally greater--for so
long--was the surrounding environment of far greater, far more numerous, far
newer dimensions of frontier vastness (space, time, mass, energy) that then
absorbed them and inexorably stretched them to a point of greater internal
quality and equality with these vast new external dimensions.
But we Americans, the spinoff, were only on the leading edge. Vastness is
not a one way street. It is uni-directional, it is bi-directional. The Old
World expanded and grew, kicking and screaming all the way, into the newer,
vaster, overall dimensions. The whole world, not just the New World, was
drinking from the "Fountain of Youth." Both New and Old, it was all New
World, all New Frontier and all young--all over again, with all the vaster
advantages and concomitant disadvantages of being full of youth and newness
again. But there are limits to the dimensions of this planetary environment
of ours. We, in each of us and in the whole, expanded and grew to reach
those limits then shrink them around us and upon us, eventually to the point
of in us, like shrink wrap. Our minds being the most acutely sensitive of
all things about us to dimensions of environmental immensity, and to
environmental shrinkage.
Just as with all life, we live both inside and outside of ourselves. We as
a species of life, particularly--acutely--are spatial. We can think far more
largely outside of ourselves than any lower form of life, see into, perceive
into, and think into a far vaster Universe than the space our bodies and
brains occupy, thus with space, time, mass and energy, we can access, store
and use in far larger, far more complex, structures than us (mentally and
physically) whatever, however, immense and numerous the dimensions
environmentally outside of ourselves.
We've reached--a few of us have reached--the point in spatial thinking of
discovering there are two spaces (relative to us) rather than one. Outer
space relative to us, and inner space relative to us, though neither space
is really different from the other. They are so self-similar that they have
to be indivisibly one and the same space when relativity to us is isolated
out away from the picture. This means, relative to the unity of such a
self-similarity, we will not (because we cannot) continue to grow in our
access to and usage of inner space (relatively speaking--energy, complex
structure, and efficiency) without an exact parallel or corresponding
continuing expansion into outer space (relatively speaking--mass, complex
structure, and efficiency). The nature of. . . nature itself forbids us
suspending ourselves, our environment, our complex structures (including the
complex structures of our own brains and that greater of them which they
only base, the complex structures of our minds), in place in space, time,
mass and energy for even the smallest fraction conceivable of one second of
time. We will not "improve" ourselves, "better" ourselves, become more
efficient and more civilized and peaceful, or reach anything else of any
higher quantity or quality, by remaining as we are now in place in space,
time, mass and energy. Gaining no interest on the WHOLE of the principal we
gain no interest in or on any part of the principal, and since the principal
cannot and will not suspend quantity and quality in space, time, mass and
energy, it shrinks in both quantity and quality of principal.
So we start inflating an illusion of increasing quantity and quality even
as we actually shrink in the intrinsic reality of both. We delude ourselves.
As we get further and ever further away from reality into illusion and
delusion, we really expand and grow in the reality of frustrations, angers,
unsanities and insanities. Instead of dividing outwardly into the Universe
at large in our inevitable revolutions and evolutions, we divide inwardly
within ourselves in those self-same inevitable revolutions and evolutions.
We will adhere to physics, we will adhere to natural laws, and the
increasingly frustrated and angered and incoherent radically Utopian unsane,
and now insane, among us will only speed up this increasingly isolated,
increasingly shrunken, world in that adherence to REALITY.
President Bush's "Vision" concerning the space frontier and this world
within it, other than the promise of SpaceShipOne, is all the civilized of
this world really has to go on. He is terribly ignorant concerning how to
get from here and now to there and then, but at least he has stretched
himself to envision a vastly bigger picture and realized movement must be
kicked started into some kind of self-generating life. In this vision
forward, unlike the other leaders of this world, he may be starting to
realize the reality behind, the reality here and now. That would make him
unique and special.
Brad
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