Re: Why Mars?

From: Bill Bonde ( ``And the Lamb lies down on Broadway'' ) (stderr2_at_backpacker.com)
Date: 11/17/04 

Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 11:48:41 -0800

Scott Lowther wrote:
>
> Miguel Cruz wrote:
>

> So... you're saying to carefully schedule your day around the perfect
> flight for minimum wait time. Of course, while you're waiting for your
> redeye HST, your business partner is already unloading his baggage at
> the other end, because he left 12 hours earlier than you did on a more
> convenient flight.
>
There is no market for hyper cost hyper speed commercial passenger
airlines. The market is lower costs. Concord proves this.

In any case, what I'd like to know is how Guinness Book of World Records
decides what the fastest air breathing air vehicle is. The NASA vehicle
that just went ten times the speed of sound is claimed to qualify even
though it was assisted to get that fast with a rocket. Can someone with
a rocket that sends his vehicle to mach 11 beat the record if he hooks
an air breathing something to it and runs that at the end of the flight?
Even if that air breathing something doesn't speed up the vehicle much
or at all?

So my real question is, because I can't seem to find it anywhere, what
was the final velocity of the vehicle at rocket burn out? It seems like
that number is at least as important as the final velocity of the
vehicle. 

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sized like an overseas shipping container filled with stuff he didn't
want anyone to find till long after his death, the real deed to
Whitewater, the envelope for the Tyson Foods chicken payoffs, the real
gun he used to whack Foster, the keys to the Exocet missile he took Ron
Brown out with, copies of another few thousand illegally acquired FBI
files on his enemies, tickets to Tahiti from the White House Travel
Office, a few more soiled dresses, a couple of cases of well chewed
Cuban cigars, and the unabridged version of his autobiography. That last
one was touch and go just getting the bugger in.

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