Re: Scientists against Bush or Swift Boats against Kerry - whom would

From: Eric Chomko (echomko_at__at_polaris.umuc.edu)
Date: 11/29/04 

Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 17:04:33 +0000 (UTC)

Tkalbfus1 (tkalbfus1@aol.com) wrote:
: >: Well if Jimmy Carter knew how to deal with Iran and its illegal hostage
: >taking
: >: of our Embassy personel, then perhaps he wouldn't have been a 1 term
: >President
: >: that was followed by 12 years of Republican Administrations.
: >
: >Yes, the latter of which really fouled up the Middle East.
: >

: If Jimmy Carter resolved the hostage crisis in a manner satisfactory to the
: American public, he would have been reelected and Ronald Reagan wouldn't have
: been an issue.

Right. But there is sufficient evidence that Carter's attepts were
sabotaged by the neocons that propped up Reagan. In short, those neocons
from the Ford administration, supposedly out of power, were actually
making deals with the Iranians behind the scenes. Carter should have
exposed that!

: The problem with electing a failure into office is that he
: doesn't get reelected, that was the main thing that was wrong with Jimmy
: Carter's policys.

I guess you consider Bush I a failure, too, right?

: If there were no elections and Jimmy Carter was President for
: life, then he could follow those same old policies and have the US whipped in
: the foreign area time and time again just like the ultra left likes it to do.

You make it seem like the right-wingers are winning anything for us.
Carter at least tried to get an alternate form of energy.

: >: Well if there were no Communists in Hollywood then, howcome their sounding
: >so
: >: anti-American now?
: >
: >It isn't anti-American. It is anti right-wing. You equate America with
: >right-wing America. That is a fallacy.
: >

: To say that American troops are commiting attrocities while ignoring the
: greater attrocities of the other side is anti-American. Go to any left-wing
: demostration in Europe and you'll see someone burning the American flag.

The hell with them. What do you want to do force them to stop? They do it
in Middle East and in Asia, too.

: >But McCarthy's list was about the State Dept. When McCarthy was censured
: >he was attacking the US Army. Regean ratted out Hollywood. Don't confuse
: >McCarty and Reagan, as he might not get his stamp otherwise.
: >

: But I hear these complains about poor left-wing actors who were blacklisted
: from the Hollywood establishment and movie making, well if that happened,
: howcome Hollywood is so left wing.

I guess because the artsy-fartsy types simply are. Why are most soldiers
and cops right-wing?

: A popular movie formula is to make the US
: Army out to be the villian, there is this cartoonish US Army General who is
: always eager to go to war and is willing to shoot first and ask questions
: later. I get tired of seeing evil US Army generals in Hollywood films.

They ought to depict the civilians that the generals answer to as evil. I
doubt that that would get past the censors though.

: >No, Ike saw that civilians were using the militray for their own ends.
: >That goes on today. Ike would not be pleased with the modern neocons
: >chickenhawks.
: >

: Would you rather that the military control the military rather than civilians
: using it for their own ends, or would you rather just abolish it?

I'd rather that the people control it through Congress as it was set up in
the Constitution.

Eric

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