Re: Space Policy Sucks, while there's Life on Venus

From: Eric Chomko (echomko_at__at_polaris.umuc.edu)
Date: 01/21/05 

Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:17:00 +0000 (UTC)

Brad Guth (bradguth@yahoo.com) wrote:
: Thanks for your reply,

: Eric; "how the heck do you even fathom whether Sirius has ice-ages?!? By
: Sirius, I take it that you are referring to the A-type star with small
: companion and brighest star in the sky? Or do you have another Sirius in
: mind?"

: Obviously your mind-set is in the gutter. Either that or perhaps you can
: answer a couple of questions.

: 1) I never once stipulated that Sirius had "ice-ages". So where the heck
: did that notion come from?

Well had you not deleted your reference to it, I would have shown you.

: 2) Earth has "ice-ages" roughly every 105,000 years, and why the heck do
: you suppose that is?

No doubt several reasons,

: Do you perchance think that our sun gradually varies itself by +/-5%
: over a timeline of every 105,000 years?

: Or, do you feel it's at all possible that the spectrum of our sun varies
: itself by +/- 20% over that same timeline of every 105,000 years?

No one knows for sure since accurate earth temps are a little over 100
years and our study of the sun even less.

: Do you think that our moon goes into some gradual mystical form of
: becoming highly reflective on some 105,000 year cycle, lasting say
: 20,000 years worth before returning to its' basalt/coal like self that's
: reflecting 11%?

What evidence to do have of a 105,000 year cycle? I read that the last ice
age was a mere 10,000 years ago.

: Do you think those 20 meters worth of diatom shells piled high in so
: many multiple places upon Earth transpired because of ??????

: By way of Sirius I meant to be telling you (this time I'm not suggesting
: a damn thing) that our solar system orbits about the massive Sirius star
: system, and that there's been sufficient proof positive of this for
: decades, if not centuries. I'm suggesting that at times our solar system
: arrives well within 0.1 light year if not as close as 0.0086 light year,
: thus for +/- 10,000 years we essentially have two suns (actually three
: if you'd include the mostly UV worth of Sirius/b).

Our sun orbits Sirius? Never heard that before. Where is the baricenter
and how can you prove it is fixed? Oh, so we are in a binary system with
Sirius where Sirius passes close to the planets?

Brad, answer this: if we are really part of a binary, no trinary star
system, as Sirius has a know companion, then why do our planets follow the
Bode Law parallel of terrestial, gas giant, frozen, without any mixture in
between? IOW, a close approaching Sirius would have blown off the gas
giants gases with the first pass and made them at least somewhat
terrestial in nature. But what we have is by all indications a single
star system consistent with the planets having a gradual heating to
cooling, terrestial to gaseous, that parallels Bodes law. And this doesn't
even mention the fact that planets appear to have been orbiting a single
star for millennia without significant perturbations other than Pluto's
orbit and inclination.

If we are part of a sun/Sirius system, then what is the orbital period?

: What do you suppose a million fold increase in near-UV and UV/a as
: derived from the Sirius pair of stars is worth to our solar system?

: Actually, over the 10,000 year window might have averaged as great as
: 100,000 times the present UV influx from Sirius as it's currently
: cruising 8.6 light years and still in the process of going away from us,
: which doesn't seem like all that much potential until that's compared to
: the messily 68 w/m2 that our sun delivers. Not only is Sirius visually
: so much brighter, but it's spectrum is shifted a good 150 nm towards the
: UV spectrum, thus most of the Sirius intensity can only be appreciated
: by the Kodak eye or of similar film and/or the likes of unfiltered CCDs
: that are extremely sensitive to the similar spectrum of what the Sirius
: star system delivers.

All you had to say was that the sun is a G2 star and Sirius is an A1,
Geez! Also its proper motion is not that great suggesting little chance of
actually being in orbit with us. In short, it, like other stars is the
solar neighborhood, is acting exactly like a typical star.

Here, look up Barnard's Star as I'm sure it will give you new fodder for
fantastic tales once even you tire of your Sirius ruse. Geepers man, you
don't even provide good basis for a science fiction story!

: Of course, since you're acting somewhat Mr. Negative, chances are fairly
: good that you're going to misinterpret this as some damn fool joke about
: how another star system can influence the environment upon good old
: mother Earth.

Yes, yes, you're no astronomer but make your case for being an astrologer
instead. Astronomers, even amateurs, simply appear to be negative to
astrologers. ;)

: Tell me something that I actually do not know; such as how much of the
: near-UV and UV/a energy is it going to take for accelerating the growth
: of just about everything on Earth?

: What if the average UV influx was merely doubled, thereby averaging 0.5
: w/m2 and contributed 24/7 instead of the 0.25 w/m2 12 hours/day?

The theory is that the ozone layer is diminishing. And it has nothing to
do with Sirius! Sirius' association with fire is seasonal at best.

: The total influx of our solar energy spectrum that's entirely UV has
: been suggested as 68 w/m2, of which typically 0.25 w/m2 arrives upon
: half of the surface at a time. What do you suppose 10 fold that amount
: and essentially thereby affording our environment a 24/7 worth of dual
: illuminations (half of which containing a great deal more of the near-UV
: and UV/a energy) would do for the likes of Earth, Mars and even Titan?

The esoteric, pseudo-scientific version of 'chicken little'?

Eric

: Regards, Brad Guth / GASA-IEIS http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-topics.htm

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