Re: Space Policy Sucks, while there's Life on Venus

From: Brad Guth (bradguth_at_yahoo.com)
Date: 01/22/05 

Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 02:56:30 +0000 (UTC)

That's odd, here's yet another prime example of what sucks about this
forum.

I'd recently replied to "Sam Wormley" within sic.physics, and then all
of the lights went out. The original topic was no more, and I can't
quite imagine why.

It was a topic of something dealing with the likes of other life managed
to make a go of it on Venus, to which Sam essentially insisted there was
absolutely no possible way, and to which he posted these four basic
sub-topics;

As offered by Sam Wormley;
  "All the laws of thermodynamics apply.
  "Water?
  "Soil?
  "Hunger?

I followed those with my best effort and perhaps a little too much humor
and, low and behold, as usual I'm not even given the light of day. In
fact, the entire original topic was pulled. How rude of Sam Wormley.

OK Sam, obviously you're not thinking sufficiently outside the box.

You're not thinking silica exoskeletals and/or even lizard folk, much
less smart ones.

How many megatonnes worth of pure H2O would you like?

How many megawatts of absolutely clean energy would you like?

Dirt; I'm not exactly sure why Venus wouldn't have dirt?

What part of your physics-101 doesn't apply to Venus?

BTW; I'm not the village idiot suggesting that Venus is suited for
pathetically dumb and dumber as well as arrogant and bigoted humans. As
how completely stupid would that be?

As for that question about "hunger"; why wouldn't they use 'take out'?

At least pizzas could get baked upon their last minute of delivery, and
otherwise nothing should ever get cold.

I'm thinking of an abode constructed of R-1024/m basalt/silica
composites, and their self-cleaning oven being an opening in the wall
that's merely control-vented to the exterior, having that triple pane
silica/pyrex glass door, and everything on the menu based upon seconds
of baking instead of minutes or hours. A 25 pound turkey in 25 seconds
might turn out a bit Cajun. A happy meal in 0.5 seconds flat.

Just think, there'd be no dish washing, no clean up whatsoever. Toss
whatever outside and it's gone for good, or at least extremely
sterilized.

Their porta-potties being porta-incinerators seems perfectly sanitary.

However, their backyard vertical tunnel as affording the individual or
community tower of power that's easily extracting if need be a megawatt
of energy from the 4+bar/km and 10°K/km differential is just the ticket
for direct (single pass) CO2 thermal cycle cooling, thus boss air
conditioning and ice cold beer isn't a problem, nor is CO2-->CO/O2.

Might I keep asking; What part of your physics isn't allowed to function
on behalf of Venus?

If good insulation can manage to keep either hot or cold within, why can
it just accomplish half the job of keeping hot out, especially the
merely conductive form of hot?

I suppose next you're going to be insisting that any rigid airship
simply can't possibly function on Venus (perhaps that's having something
to due with their having too much buoyancy and only 90.5% gravity)?

And, I suppose you can't think of anything positive to do with the likes
of unlimited amounts of CO/O2?

Is there any chance yourself or others can manage to even see the 'fluid
arch', or is that asking of something that's too natural upon such a
geologically active planet to exist?

Have you even looked at the images:
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-town.htm

Regards, Brad Guth / GASA-IEIS
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/update-242.htm 

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