Re: Boeing to propose D-IV H for VSE

From: Reed Snellenberger (rsnellenberger_at_houston.rr.com)
Date: 02/22/05


Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 15:02:12 GMT

Ed Kyle wrote:
>
> I didn't see the article saying that Delta IV-M+(x,6) is only
> meant for cargo. It says:
>
> "Boeing wants NASA to consider the Delta IV Heavy for manned
> CEV missions, but is also pushing the Heavy for unmanned
> exploration launch roles. One Delta IV Medium version could
> also be a CEV player...."
>

Further down in the article, in the discussion about the requirements
for a human-rated booster.

> Boeing is fully aware of the astronaut concerns [regarding man-rating
> boosters - ed.], says Jim Harvey, who heads Boeing Launch Services
> development and is leading Delta IV exploration studies. "Instead of
> a human-rated rocket, Boeing is talking about a 'human-compatible'
> launch vehicle," Harvey said. And that approach, coupled with CEV
> escape designed in from the start, he said, would make the whole
> system human-rated.
>
> Aside from its IV Medium with six solids, Boeing
> believes its all-liquid propulsion, with more benign failure modes
> than solids, argues for strong consideration of the Delta Heavy for
> the CEV role.
>
> The development of health-monitoring capability for liquid engines is
> well underway in NASA and industry. Such systems are designed to
> discern if a liquid engine is close to a potential failure that would
> make separation of a manned CEV less of a challenge.
>
> Upgraded Delta Heavy options do include solids as augmentation to the
> three RS-68s, but the options with solids would be for only unmanned
> cargos.

Although you have to read between the lines slightly, it's pretty clear
from this that Boeing realizes that solids are a non-starter for manned
boosters due to their possible failure modes.

-- 
Reed Snellenberger
GPG KeyID: 5A978843
rsnellenberger-at-houston.rr.com


Relevant Pages

  • Re: Delta 4 Costs
    ... Boeing Delta 4 and 410 million for Lockheed Atlas 5. ... The air force gets two launch vehicle families for assured access. ... fixed costs only), ...
    (sci.space.policy)
  • Re: "Heavy lift: examining the requirements"
    ... According to AvWeek (_not_ referring to the Delta IV Heavy, ... "Any Medium launcher options for CEV would, however, have to be ...
    (sci.space.policy)
  • Re: Delta 4 Costs
    ... Boeing Delta 4 and 410 million for Lockheed Atlas 5. ... The air force gets two launch vehicle families for assured access. ... I figure that the EELV program costs each taxpayer something ...
    (sci.space.policy)
  • Re: End of Delta IV?
    ... the ULA (United Launch Alliance) would spell the end of Delta IV. ... Boeing would drop its expensive Delta IV program for the cheaper Atlas ...
    (sci.space.policy)
  • Re: Whats happened to these two groups? Ill contribute.
    ... Boeing 727 (Mexicana, USAir Shuttle, Delta Shuttle) ... Longest flight by distance: LAX to SYD, ... AA, Cathay, JAL (also as AA codeshare, + ...
    (rec.travel.air)