Re: "Nazis Run Our Space Program" -- Peace Activist Bruce Gag-Me

From: Pat Flannery (flanner_at_daktel.com)
Date: 03/14/05 

Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:07:38 -0600

Rand Simberg wrote:

>If you're earning only minimum wage, you're getting a
>government-imposed handout from your employer, unless it just happens
>that minimum wage is exactly the market rate for your services
>(unlikely in most cases). The difference between the actual value of
>your labor and the minimum wage is a form of welfare, whose cost is
>born by business instead of taxpayers.
>

Oh, I get more than minimum wage, but the hours aren't there.

>
>
>In your pride, you should be demanding the right to work for whatever
>rate you and your employer agree upon, rather than complaining about
>the minimum wage not being high enough.
>

If one isn't making enough to live upon at minimum wage, what exactly
would be the advantage of negotiating with your employer to be paid
_less_ than minimum wage?

> There are jobs that go
>unfilled because they aren't worth minimum wage, thus (for example)
>shutting many inner-city youth out of the entry job market.
>
>

But not, I suspect, illegal aliens. After all, who are they going to go
to to complain that their employer isn't paying them the legal minimum
wage? They could try...but they would be deported.
Isn't United States free market capitalism wonderful? While on the one
hand not paying its own unskilled workers enough to live off of, it at
the same time exploits foreign nationals on the sly. In the good old
days of colonialism that required going to a foreign country to
accomplish. Having an indigenous population of them is a great
convenience, and shows the further progress of The American Dream into a
bold new millennia.

Pat

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