Re: An oasis on the moon?

From: dug88 (dug88_at_shaw.ca)
Date: 03/26/05 

Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 14:03:15 GMT

"Joe Strout" <joe@strout.net> wrote in message
news:joe-69BFAD.16033509032005@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> In article <1110395525.465862.108070@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
> "Max Wilson" <wilson.max@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> What coming oil shortage? It's not like we're in any danger of running
>> out. That might have been plausible 20 years ago, but the worst that
>> could happen now is that we have to make it from scratch, which is
>> currently more expensive than buying it from Saudi Arabia but could be
>> made cheaper. Oil is an economic question now.
>
> It's always been an economic question, and it's not so much about oil
> per se, as about energy. Oil right now is a primary energy source, and
> of course we can't make it without using even more energy. Put another
> way, manufactured oil is *not* an energy source. So when the oil in the
> ground gets too expensive to extract, making more oil isn't a solution
> -- the question remains, where are we going to get our energy?
>
> And of course there are a variety of answers to that question (see [1]
> for a good review), but none of them are really ready to take up that
> much slack. So, to minimize the economic upheaval, it'd be better to
> develop these technologies sooner rather than later.
>
> [1] Hoffert et al., "Advanced Technology Paths to Global Climate
> Stability: Energy for a Greenhouse Planet", Science 298:981-987.
>
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alternative energy sources are already available.
One country in europe already gets 6 to 8 percent of their power from wind
turbines.
The cost of oil is already too expensive. The gas guzzling big cars of
yesteryear are long since gone. Now you buy tiny effiecient cars, with
better economy.
Although the USA did not join the Kayoto protocals, it will be effected by
the results.
here in canada, the government is going big on "save a ton of smog
challenge."
So i spent a few dollars to change my light bulbs to high efficient high
brilliance output.
While you burn the high cost oil and pay your light bills, think about the
waste.
do a google search to "save a ton" and give the challenge a try, if you want
to save money.
Keep the oil in the ground. Keep your money in your pocket.
There is every epectation world wide the cost of gas will be doubled fairly
soon.
So even energy efficient cars are likely to be the gas guzzlers of coming
years.
Righgt now, diesel fuel can be made frrom recycled vegetable deep fryer oil,
and alcohol. Alcohol can be made from used paper recycled.
It is actually a good idea to think about energy on many different levels.
Hey i am albertan. By all means keep sucking oil and energy and you are just
making my province incredibly rich. Thanx but no thanx, save your money,
upgrade your country, ignoring it, will only make your dependance profound
when it strikes home.
And a country with manufacturing grinding to a halt because of high costs,
is more than the book Atlas Shrugged, ever contimplated.

yes admitted Too Much Information.

but with the tiny comments, i have seen here, i decided to start ideas
going.

hey good luck, let me know what you will do wqith all the money you save.

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