Re: An oasis on the moon?

From: Double-A (double-a_at_hush.ai)
Date: 03/26/05


Date: 26 Mar 2005 06:26:40 -0800


dug88 wrote:
[snip]

> alternative energy sources are already available.
> One country in europe already gets 6 to 8 percent of their power from
wind
> turbines.
> The cost of oil is already too expensive. The gas guzzling big cars
of
> yesteryear are long since gone. Now you buy tiny effiecient cars,
with
> better economy.

Didn't we already go through all this back in the 70's?

> Although the USA did not join the Kayoto protocals, it will be
effected by
> the results.
> here in canada, the government is going big on "save a ton of smog
> challenge."

Most of the smog in Cadada drifts in from the U.S.

> So i spent a few dollars to change my light bulbs to high efficient
high
> brilliance output.

And then the power company will raise your rates to make up for their
lose of sales due to the conservation measures.

> While you burn the high cost oil and pay your light bills, think
about the
> waste.
> do a google search to "save a ton" and give the challenge a try, if
you want
> to save money.
> Keep the oil in the ground. Keep your money in your pocket.
> There is every epectation world wide the cost of gas will be doubled
fairly
> soon.
> So even energy efficient cars are likely to be the gas guzzlers of
coming
> years.
> Righgt now, diesel fuel can be made frrom recycled vegetable deep
fryer oil,
> and alcohol. Alcohol can be made from used paper recycled.

We already have to use alcohol "enriched" gas during winter months in
any major city. The cars run lousy on it! Can all that coughing,
sputtering, and galloping be the sound of energy efficiency!

> It is actually a good idea to think about energy on many different
levels.
> Hey i am albertan. By all means keep sucking oil and energy and you
are just
> making my province incredibly rich.

Build more gasoline refineries. That will both help our problem in the
U.S. and further pad your pockets.

> Thanx but no thanx, save your money,
> upgrade your country, ignoring it, will only make your dependance
profound
> when it strikes home.
> And a country with manufacturing grinding to a halt because of high
costs,
> is more than the book Atlas Shrugged, ever contimplated.
>
> yes admitted Too Much Information.
>
> but with the tiny comments, i have seen here, i decided to start
ideas
> going.
>
> hey good luck, let me know what you will do wqith all the money you
save.

I don't know. Buy a horse?

Double-A



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