Re: Air Force Signs Off on SRB-CEV



Kim Keller wrote:
> "Ed Kyle" <edkyle99@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:1123722586.516736.274220@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Most strikingly, the letter also says that NASA
> > is agreeing to consider phasing out Delta 2 in
> > favor of EELV. This means that long-running
> > Thor-Delta, probably the world's most reliable
> > active launch vehicle - the launcher that has
> > boosted all of NASA's recent Mars missions - is
> > in danger of being abandoned. The alternative
> > launchers cost more than Delta 2, so giving up
> > Delta 2 means fewer, costlier missions
>
> Actually, you'd be surprised what a Delta II costs these days. Delta II
> Heavy pushes $100M.

That is still tens of $millions less than an EELV,
at least according to Astronautix.com, which says
that the basic Medium EELVs now cost $130-140
million. NASA's MRO Atlas V press kit says the
launch cost $90 million, but I wonder about that
number. (A nice launch this morning, BTW, at least
up to the end of the first Centaur burn).

> On a totally separate note, Griffin's contention that he can develop the
> "Shaft" CEV carrier for $5B stinks. There's no way it would cost that much
> to ass-rate an EELV, and i'll bet the mission costs would be lower, too.
> More politics at work.

I always thought NASA would end up with one EELV
and the Air Force would get the other. But the
Air Force seems content keeping control of *both*
EELVs.

- Ed Kyle

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