Re: I take objection to NASA's Mars plans!

Dear lord/wizard William Mook,
Speaking of MOS nonsense and bull*** that you more often than not
represent; apparently my taking exception to whatever Mars plans
represents another one of your mainstream no-no/taboo situations,
whereas the incest cloned spooks, moles and of other such borgs as
yourself wiping and continually protecting NASA's intellectual
flatulence spewing *** with all of your extremely brown noses are
going to keep sharing as much mainstream status quo flak as it'll take
to burry anyone suggesting upon absolutely anything as having to do
with your perpetrated cold-war worth of a moon that hasn't even been
walked upon.

Though I'll first argue that our moon should have become our priority
No.1, but since our cloak and dagger rusemasters of our perpetrated
cold-war operations of their MI5/NSA~NASA have summarily messed up that
opportunity until a few of them Apollo cows come home, in which case
this is what I'd offered in another honest reply to "Warhol"

Speaking about "logic, that means the urgent things first..."
Doing Venus instead of Mars is nothing but a win-win-win for science,
our environment and most of humanity.
I'm only suggesting that since folks insist upon thinking that we've
actually walked upon the moon (right along side the tooth fairy and
all), and they seem focused at walking upon Mars for merely another
spendy decade+ of taking just about every talent and resource we got to
work with, thus an overall intent upon investing another trillion+ upon
accomplishing Mars. In that case, I've got an even better idea at not
1% the cost nor 10% the required time as for doing Venus instead of
Mars.

Unlike Mars, at least once under the clouds or nearly upon Venus you
would be calmly floating about in a fairly nifty rigid airship/shuttle
without getting TBI to death, certainly not sub-frozen to death and
hardly a snowball's chance in hell of your getting impacted by any
incoming meteor, at least not with the surface being protected by
nearly 10% the density of water as making any meteor impact nearly
impossible. You'd certainly have easy access to vast amounts of
geothermal energy as well as utilizing the vertical differentials of
4+bar/km and 10°K/km as kinetic energy, either of which are
essentially green/renewable forms of energy that doesn't have to be
imported.

Of course unlike Mars, the atmospheric density and thus buoyancy is
just exactly what the doctor ordered for efficiently getting whatever
safely below them cool nighttime clouds, as well as absolutely perfect
for accommodating a rigid airship form of a shuttle craft that could
efficiently stay aloft for months at a time. At less than 90.5% gravity
is simply icing on the cake.

Since R-1024/m worth of structural insulation can be locally
manufactured and utilized as a nearly buoyant substance that'll be
keeping you nicely cool, and that the surrounding atmospheric ocean of
mostly dry and clean CO2 could in of itself be utilized as the
refrigeration gas instead of having a complex closed circuit of
specialized freon or perhaps having to utilize mercury, which
represents that the usage of local energy as for transferring heat
would remain as 100% environmentally friendly and thus zero polluting
even though it's an open circuit of compressing that CO2 and merely
heat-exchanging perhaps at 200 bar prior to being released into an
expansion heat-exchanger that'll essentially be keeping yourself and
your beer cold as ice, remembering there's no limits as to the easily
available energy for this process that'll likely include the
CO2-->CO/O2 process.

Again unlike Mars, extracting pure H2O out of them relatively cool
nighttime season worth of clouds is physics distillation-101, and that
task can be 100% robotic. So, unlike Mars, everything needed for
surviving upon Venus is already there unless you're too dumb and dumber
because you're still totally snookered and thus dumbfounded about such
things.

Of course getting ourselves to/from Venus when it's merely a little
over 100 fold the distance of our moon seems almost embarrassing
compared to Mars, and there's nearly four times as much to look at
because Venus is darn near as big as Earth, with absolutely terrific
canyons, mountains and simply weird terrain that's still quite
geologically active that'll put the sub-freezing, TBI and easily
pulverised to death likes of Mars to shame. Eventually getting an icy
proto-moon like Sedna into orbiting if not impacting Venus should
terraform that relatively hot planet into a real gem of a place once
the H2O and S8 elements have reacted rather badly and probably having
killed off all of the coexisting forms of life (at least that part
we're darn good at causing such widespread collateral damage and
subsequent carnage of the innocent without ever a stitch of remorse).

Of course doing Venus as purely robotically is even more doable and way
cheaper than any nonreactive clumping moon-dirt worth of cornmeal and
portland cement. And BTW; the nighttime season of Venus isn't dark to a
nocturnal eye, nor that of a radar-eye or even a sensitive CCD-eye that
can be made for surviving within that geothermally impacted
environment. Today there are few if hardly anything that's not capable
of becoming compatible with having to function at 811°C, although with
good insulation of R-1024/m and having absolute loads of easily
available energy that's green and renewable, there's certainly noting
insurmountable about whatever dry and thus safe forms of heat that in
certain places might not even be worth 600°K.

It's also not nearly as likely to having microbes and/or spores just
running amuck without a sufficient host of an exoskeletal Venusian,
therefore much lesser chance of infecting Earth with Venus than can be
said for Mars. Although, the upper nighttime clouds having shown lots
of available elements of H2O and O2 could be introducing us to a robust
sort of flying spore if not aerial diatoms that could kick some serious
DNA/RNA ***.
~

Nondisclosure/Taboo: in spite of evidence exclusions, it seems there's
been other life upon Venus
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-town.htm
The Russian/China LSE-CM/ISS (Lunar Space Elevator) as interactive
within the ME-L1/EM-L2 sweet-spot
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/lunar-space-elevator.htm
Proto-moons, Venus ETs, Earthly ETs plus a few other somewhat testy
topics by; Brad Guth / GASA-IEIS
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-topics.htm

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