Re: A lunar rover

Joe Strout;
>It makes no sense until you understand the Moon taboo in NASA culture,
>which continued despite the excellent Clementine results.

I'm not 100% certain if you're merely snookered or one of the
rusemasters still hard at work because, it actually makes perfect
double-duh sense, just like the mutually perpetrated cold-war makes
sense if you're another DoD hawk, and of all the collateral damage and
carnage of the innocent makes perfect sense if you're after global
energy domination, that is once you stop being such a cold-hearted
three-faced LLPOF borg that can't possibly think outside of your
brown-nosed mainstream status quo box.

This is essentially what I'd contributed on behalf of a supposedly
respectful commercial infomercial wizard "moonpans".
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/sci.space.history/browse_frm/thread/56459fadd3c4daf8/efe164c38c8925ca?lnk=st&q=moonpans&rnum=4&hl=en#efe164c38c8925ca
Dear Mike Constantine (AKA moonpans),
I see that you've finally gotten around to PhotoShop cranking up the
otherwise subdued (xenon illuminated) blue of the American flag, but
you still have that nearly entirely 55+% albedo moonscape that's
somewhat impossible, and still nothing whatsoever of the horrifically
bright Sirius star system, or that of a nearby and intensely (75+%)
reflective Venus that must have been rather intensely annoying on at
least two of the Apollo missions.
http://moonpans.com/a11neilmesa.htm

Being that the moonsuits were typically 80+ some odd percent reflective
(some portions at 85+%), it seems that the average albedo worth of
11~12% of the raw solar illuminated and via a polarised filter at that
should have been nearly coal like, and certainly depicting as a whole
lot more of carbon, iron and titanium dusty to moonboot were anything
but similar to their own images as having been obtained from nearby
orbit.
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Exactly as I've been offering for years, I believe Kodak Corporate and
of their photo-physics just proved in more than ten ways that our
incest cloned astronauts (LLPOF bigots in moonsuits) never set a TBI
moonboot worth of a hot-foot upon the nasty and reactive lunar surface.
Of course, you're into evidence exclusions whenever something rocks
your boat that's chuck full of other brown nosed borgs as having been
equally incest cloned on behalf of the Skull and Bones cultism that
you're not about to give up.

This is a little of what "tj Frazir" had to say about our moon
(actually he's offered us a good thousand other lines that are worth
taking a second look-see at);
>We never went to the BLUE titanium iron oxide moon.
>The truth is nasa never went to the moon. Not once.
As you fools should already know, even though I don't entirely agree
with his blue moon notion, I couldn't possibly agree more with "tj
Frazir", whereas I do believe that we went towards the moon, at least
having robotically orbited the damn thing, having sent a few sections
of Apollo stuff into essentially impacting the moon (though we'd
honestly been hoping for a soft fly-by-rocket landing which some day
might actually happen), took many pictures from orbit (not actually
requiring such photo efforts as being manned) and obviously returned to
mother Earth with some really nifty photos that are today still every
bit as good as it gets, showing us a somewhat reddish dark golden brown
lunar surface that really sucks in more ways than you or I can shake a
flaming stick at.

As a perfectly reasonable sub-topic as to terraforming our moon on
behalf of getting robotics efficiently onto the nasty deck, it seems
there's a perfectly good chance that our Apollo crews spent their
relatively safe stay within the EM-L2/ME-L1 zone (roughly 58,000~64,000
km away from the moon), as still quite a nasty spot but a whole lot
more survivable as based upon the short amount of exposure while
slightly shielded by their Apollo craft (although that in of itself
created it's own amounts of secondary/recoil photons). Of those having
actually orbited the moon is where the math gets a wee bit fuzzy, in
that doing the reverse formula on the secondary/recoil dosage of
hard-X-rays that were cerated and available from the raw solar influx
upon the unshielded lunar surface as being reactive is quite deffinetly
involving a somewhat DNA/RNA compromise that's potentially red-line
dosage (50~100 Rads/mission if there's nothing all that nasty coming
off the sun), thus if need be survivable but not by all that much.
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Another somewhat repeat of this next warm and fuzzy topic update is
being contributed for all those diehard MI5/NAS~NASA incest cloned
borgs that are simply too dumb and dumber or simply too arrogant and
bigoted as to even realize that their good ship LOLLIPOP is sinking
right smack dab in the middle of the mainstream of their very own
status quo perpetrated cold-war worth of absolute infomercial crapolla
that's been responsible for getting folks quite dead, and as of lately
pushing the rest of us into WW-III over fossil fuel.

This being MOS info as to my way of summarily ***-kicking those
MI5/NSA~NASA's disinformation-R-us bastards, of our having to deal with
their conditional-physics and evidence exclusions that continually
sucks and blows intellectual flatulence chunks at the same time. What
more can possibly be said of such folks having "the right stuff" (other
than that being a serious ***-load of LLPOF crapolla in their pants)?

There's certainly been a rather nasty stink-pot of a space-toilets
overload with the sorts of LLPOF trouble as to found within their River
City because, Apollo-13 may have been staged (our perpetrated cold-war
spooks were certainly capable of accomplishing that much) or perhaps
not but, either way the facts remain that in no freaking physics-101
way upon Earth or in hell upon or moon have folks in synthetic
moonsuits walked essentially ***-naked upon the moon, and that's a
Kodak Corporate recorded photographic moment worth of the truth and
nothing but the truth.

I'd like to keep imposing yet another of my own sub-topic questions, as
to asking what Venus to do with all of the moon taboo?
Perhaps it's all because of all the liars upon liars that have been
telling us their buttology lies upon lies until those Apollo cows come
home, either that or until their fat lady sings.
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/apollo/catalog/70mm/
Obviously the official archives of those original images as having been
obtained from orbit (robotically or manned) are of absolute
proof-positive that of those near white-out zones of cornmeal and
portland cement that were artificially illuminated via xenon lamps,
upon scenes that were no more dusty than for being accommodated here
upon Earth (nicely clumping none the less), nor the least bit raw solar
influx worthy of that environment having been photon reactive as to the
degree of secondary/recoil photons that should have been easily
photo/Kodak moment recorded is simply proof-positive that folks
protecting their NASA butts are either entirely dumb and dumber, as in
dumbfounded into their being snookered or, it's that perhaps they're
one and the same rusemasters of this masterful ruse/sting of the
century. Which is it?

I especially like using this next official looking page of those
autographed photos that are nearly of lunar white-out zones as having
damn few if any meteorite remains nor of secondary impact shards, then
absolutely zilch, nada as in zero worth of secondary/recoil photons of
anything the least bit near-blue, much less as having offered any
hard-X-ray dosage as per otherwise having been since established as a
certified hard-scientific matter of fact by terrestrial satellite
instruments as for that environment being quite a nasty situation.
http://moonpans.com/signed/

Forget all about the fact that there's still no viable fly-by-rocket
lander (US or Russian);
In no explainable physics way possible would the dark golden brown
(reddish tint of what titanium and iron dust that's got a good amount
of carbon blended in) as color and low albedo of the lunar surface have
been so extensively altered by way of folks being situated upon the
surface, as opposed to orbiting at 100+km off the deck. There are
simply too many direct comparisons of true color and of the raw
intensity or reflective albedo to work with. If anything, the
unfiltered EVA/moonsuit obtained Kodak moments as having been
supposedly obtained upon the surface should have recorded substantial
amounts of secondary/recoil photons, so much so that within shadows and
especially upon the items brought along for the ride should have
provided a noticeable degree of a near-blue cast of secondary
illumination, plus having obtained an overall green~bluish skew which
the film was certainly extremely sensitive to recording of such unless
having been extensively spectrum band-pass filtered in order to have
reasonably corrected for such. Even the initial raw Kodak moments as
obtain from their fully robotic Apollo-8 are certainly giving folks
with half a brain a clue as to the color/spectrum shift and surface
albedo considerations that existed. Later missions from orbit (manned
or robotic applied appropriate filters in order to obtain what's so
perfectly natural about the moon color and albedo that simply doesn't
shift simply because of being situated upon the surface as armed with
only a polarised filter that if anything should have made the lunar
surface darker, and certainly not the least bit lighter nor having
excluded remains of crisp meteorites along with the various spectrums
of natural color to boot.

Forget all about the stinking moon and even try really hard as to
forget all about those MI5/MI6/NSA~NASA individuals and spooks as
supposedly having "the right stuff" that so many seem to think are so
freaking wonderful. I might also suggest that folks should desmirk
their silly faces the way our resident warlord(GW Bush) did, and to
wipe off their extremely brown noses, then just per using the regular
laws of physics and of the available hard-science that's been available
about Venus, similar to what the likes of John Ackerman and F.W. Taylor
had to work with and lo and behold, gosh darn if there's not all sorts
of perfectly nifty things about Venus become possible, if not easily
doable, and certainly a whole lot more humanily obtainable as well as
survivable than Mars.

My observationology about Venus is just exactly what it is, an honest
to God subjective interpretation of what remains as looking far more
likely as for being artificial than not, thus either having been
constructed by Venusians (possibly prior to Venus getting itself so hot
and nasty upon arriving into our solar system) or of ETs as having been
involved with their taking of whatever away from Venus. Since these
all-knowing wizard like spooks and their friends can't even detect upon
any of our fairly robust and brightly reflective Apollo remains as
situated upon a nearly coal dark and nasty moon, that which should have
been offering an environment as having been covered in a cosmic morgue
worth of crisp meteorites and impact related shards of dark basalt, all
of which coated with that nasty composite dust of carbon, iron and the
likes of titanium up to meters deep in places, thus obviously these
incest cloned borgs and their MI5/NSA spook friends are not the least
qualified to challenge my interpretations of whatever's on Venus.

Other than the ongoing moon taboo and subsequent damage-control, why
otherwise are they being so closed minded, so mindset upon self
destruction/imploding or bust while focused upon taking as much of
hymanity as they can along for the ride of our lives to hell, upon Mars
none the less?
~

Life on Venus, a Township, Bridge and ET/UFO Park-n-Ride Tarmac:
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-town.htm
The Russian/China LSE-CM/ISS (Lunar Space Elevator)
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/lunar-space-elevator.htm
Venus ETs, plus the updated sub-topics; Brad Guth / GASA-IEIS
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-topics.htm
"In war there are no rules" - Brad Guth

Because I'm such a nice sport, or perhaps as their worst possible
messenger from hell, I should add this closing rant:
Not that folks encharge of publishing and acting upon our past, present
and future would actually give the lower 99.9% (scum of the Earth) of
humanity a tinkers damn, nor share a gram worth of remorse; but,

There has obviously been damn good cloak and dagger cold-war reasons as
to why our MI5/NSA~NASA rusemasters haven't published squat worth of
those as-is natural color Kodak moments as having been obtained from
orbit (http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/apollo/catalog/70mm/), whereas
such images are certainly of sufficiently true to life color and of the
expected 11~12% albedo, as well as per their being obtained as near
enough to the moon, typically just a bit more than 100 km which
represents along with a 10X telephoto lens as accommodating 38,400 fold
mafgnification and, as having been applied onto essentially that of an
8192 X 8192 pixle per B&W frame and worth 4096 X 4096 upon color film
that was also worth at least 256 bit color/contrast depth that's easily
offering us a terrific look-see that's a good 100 fold better off than
the best of whatever team KECK has to work with as of today, and tht's
well above whatever it should have taken for quite nicely enlarging
upon their Apollo landing sites, especially since their CM had to have
pasted multiple times directly over each of those sites respectively
upon each and every mission, that which did not even require such as
for those being manned as for their accomplishing such images via
orbiting the moon, although manned orbits were certainly doable as
humanly survivable though perhaps at an elevated TBI factor that might
suggest having been close to their red-line of requiring banked bone
marrow upon their return, especially if they'd actually spent any
EVA/moonsuit ***-naked time upon the reactive surface.

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