Re: I take objection to NASA's Mars plans!

William Mook,
I basically agree with the vast majority of what you have to say.
However, and just for starters;
>Unfortunately, expenditures to develop space faring technology was
>limited to about 1% of the federal budget after it became clear the US
>would be first on the moon.
Two slight problems here; (1) being that you think we've walked on the
moon, (2) being that if the budget is supposedly so limited, then why
not focus our supposedly limited resources and otherwise vast talents
and supposed expertise upon actually accomplishing our moon, and/or of
going for the rather nearby realm of accommodating Venus with at least
deploying a TRACE-VL2 robotic station-keeping platform within a
halo-orbit as centered over the Venus season of nighttime, that's
essentially of what can be affordably taken off the shelf?

Thus unfortunately, if we can't accomplish our moon nor the nearby
likes of Venus, as such we do NOT have the "technical capacity to make
commercial use of interplanetary space", but via the moon we should
eventually put a serious dent in such commercial ventures including
human space travel.

Just like there's been a somewhat less restricted budget of merely
trillions for dealing with all of those stealth/invisible WMD
(including the hunt for the invisible man of Osama bin Laden), perhaps
the actual space exploration budget isn't quite as limited as you'd
like us to think.

If there's still that life of whomever/whatever constructed those
relatively large structures upon Venus, then what's the budget limit as
for our doing something on behalf of our two worlds getting to know one
another?

Besides Venus, there's also the extremely hot and nasty topic about our
moon, and another just as testy as for the utilization of ISS in the
process of folks establishing our first and one and only LSE-CM/ISS
claim before Russia or China gets there first.

Your notions about getting us past the speed of light, as in "time
travel" or "time reversed computing" is well accepted by way of my
dyslexic brain cells but, that's pretty much a load of pie in the sky,
at least for the moment. Whereas the following couple of topics are a
wee bit more down to Earth, or at least near enough to Earth and
entirely doable within the realms of the regular laws of physics and,
as having been backed up with what hard-science that we've actually got
to work with.


Topic: Internet on the ISS?
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/sci.space.history/browse_frm/thread/ca2a4bddb389a60b/d0dd105d73afd5e5?lnk=st&q=brad+guth&rnum=6#d0dd105d73afd5e5

If ISS were to be relocated, just as I believe is technically possible
to accomplish even though a few extra tonnes of shielding may be
required for accommodating us humans, as for being nicely situated at
the ME-L1/EM-L2 mutual though somewhat interactive
gravity-well/nullification, as then the notion of having an ISS
Internet would start to make a little sense, exactly like my topic on
the Russian He3/fusion economy and perhaps of their new world order as
based upon such clean energy, that'll require them supposedly dirty
rotten Russians to first establish their LSE-CM/ISS. Of course there's
only going to be room for one of these nifty LSE suckers. Imagine that,
a Russian star-wars platform that's about a high of battle ground as
you're going to get.

Moon Physics via Russian LSE-CM/ISS and He3 update:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/soc.culture.scientists/browse_frm/thread/e0b3615dd402498f/042544ab70219998?lnk=st&q=brad+guth&rnum=1#042544ab70219998

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At least the regular laws of physics and of the known hard-science
about our moon and Venus, as to our viably making all sort of nifty
stuff happen can't possibly exclude ETs, from their having been making
a go of it in spite of that environment upon Venus being so gosh darn
darn hot and otherwise not actually all that nasty because, it's
relatively bone dry and there's been no shortage of energy, plus I'd
have to think that raw minerals and of most every primary element
happens to coexist just fine and dandy. Perhaps I'll have to post
another extensive topic list of what's become most interesting about
doing our not so old moon and, about Venus that's passing us by at
roughly 105 times as far away as our moon, whereas it's been a rather
geologically active orb that'll need the likes of your talents and/or
expertise as to polish up the necessary research and then help with the
process of delivering a few of those white-papers on whatever it is
that you and I can manage to deal with.

Besides loads of absolutely nifty topics about our moon and of the
LSE-CM/ISS, might I suggest any of these basic notions from the
following list of topics;
complex and multiple reservoirs
those multiple parabolic items
those rigid airships of Venus
the airship/UFO park-n-ride tarmac
well insulated highrise structures
that nifty bridge consideration
of other surface roadbed issues
of those multiple rock quarry sites
making due with too much clean energy
CO2-->CO/O2 and making of H2O2
extracting pure H2O from cool clouds
interplanetary laser communications
TRACE-VL2 as an alternative
Structural insulation that's buoyant
observationology interpreted features
terraforming the likes of Venus w/Sedna
Ungreenhouse growing of whatever
planetary evolution w/wo God
other than human life on Venus
air conditioning via CO2-->CO/O2
what's actually hot enough to boil at 100 bar
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Life on Venus, Township w/Bridge and ET/UFO Park-n-Ride Tarmac:
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-town.htm
The Russian/China LSE-CM/ISS (Lunar Space Elevator)
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/lunar-space-elevator.htm
Venus ETs, plus the updated sub-topics; Brad Guth / GASA-IEIS
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-topics.htm
"In war there are no rules" - Brad Guth

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