Re: Shuttle vs Kliper


"No One Really" <noone@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> It's a little amusing to see that the US and Russia are actually switching
> chairs: the Kliper is a small Shuttle and the CEV will become a capsule,
> just as Soyuz is today.

Actually, Kliper would be a small, potentially reusable, lifting body that
would have to rely on parachutes for landing. The CEV would also be capable
of a lifting reentry, is also potentially reusable, and would also rely on
parachutes for landing. CEV has a simpler shape and would be less complex
due to the lack of movable aerodynamic surfaces. CEV would also be capable
of a ballistic reentry if there was a failure that prevented a lifting
reentry.

So why would Kliper, a mock-up at best, be superior to the CEV PowerPoint
presentations? They're both proposed vehicles with little funding to date.

> I'm wondering if the Russians may be having second thoughts about the
Kliper
> now that the US is switching back to capsules and the political waves the
> continuing problems with the Shuttle are creating. Kliper may be more
rugged
> than the Shuttle but I'm not sure if it could be used for lunar
exploration.

Depends on the TPS, doesn't it?

> Also the Kliper has small aerodynamic wings just as the Shuttle which
could
> be damaged and destroy the vehicle.

While this is true, what would damage the wings? How would that same thing
affect the CEV?

> I don't know what kind of TPS it uses
> but from the looks of it (mockup) it will be similar to today's Shuttle.

And we all know how well the Russian TPS worked on their shuttle's first
flight. :-(

Jeff
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