Re: Bush appointee trying to push Creationism on NASA
- From: "jonathan" <Write@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 13:22:24 -0500
"Pat Flannery" <flanner@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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John Savard wrote:
You won't catch the Americans ignoring the atom bomb because relativity
and quantum mechanics are "Jewish science" or "idealistic" (and hence
contradictory to dialectical materialism).
But wasn't the original story from the Onion?
No, it sounds like something that was made up, but unfortunately this
really happened:
The ID movement has more legs than you guys realize.
And there's a reason it does. Their intuition is correct, even
if their argument is absurd. Modern science has found itself
against brick walls for some time now. They've reduced
and reduced without finding the 'big idea' that makes sense
of it all.
The public recognizes, even if the science community does not, that
a new way of approaching these ultimate questions must be found.
And I'm telling you, the latest and greatest mathematics agrees
with ....them...not you.
Self-Organized Criticality : Emergent Complex Behavior in Physical
and Biological Systems (Cambridge Lecture Notes in Physics)
"The word criticality has a very precise meaning in equilibrium
thermodynamics. It is used in connection with phase transitions
(strictly speaking continuous transitions). When the temperature
of the system is precisely equal to the transition temperature,
something extraordinary happens..........."
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0521483719/104-7597642-8962348?v=glance&n=283155
This extraordinay properties that appears at the most chaotic, not simplest,
but most complex dynamic states the universe has to offer, is the source
of all order, both physical and living. Unless you understand these
properties you are defending Dark Age science.
The ID movement has yet to fully grasp these concepts, but
they are getting there. While modern science stands pat
blaming these ideas on kooks or political hacks.
The complexity of life is where these ultimate answers are to be
found. Our fundamental laws, for both science and religion, will
be derived from the lessons of the complexity of life. You guys
look for it in the simplest the universe has to offer, particles
and the like. You guys think the properties of the physical
universe will give us these answers, that the simplest or ultimate
properties of the physical universe define life.
No, it's the other way around. Your methods are fine, your
frame of reference is backwards...literally.
The public increasingly demands that truth is decided by them.
Not well-titled ivory towers. And this is reflected in the political
arena. That fact that many believe these debates are not settled
is not an ignorant or politcal view. It's reality.
And I see the scientific community responding to this movement
with only arrogance.
s
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/04/science/04climate.html?incamp=article_popular_5
Along with the squelching of the Global Warming data.
Pat
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