Re: Historical comparisons

Society cannot be run by a theory. It must be run by practical results
of the rules people must live by. By what works.

As far as your arguments, you're in such a tizzy! lol.

Patent rights are just a human construct you say. And human rights are
not?

What a crock!

They're all theories! Constructed around thoughts and feelings people
have. Human rights stem from a natural impulse toward human-kindness
and cooperativeness when things are going well. Property rights stem
from selfish human impulses to keep a thing you have invested your life
in. They are all just theories, one isn't any better than the rest.
And all are subject to change as our understanding of ourselves
improves, and as the result of our theories come home to roost and be
know by us in different ways.. That is by the practical results of
those rules on society.

Patent rights cause people to create huge amounts of wealth. So do
property rights, when it doesn't involve taking the rights of others
like slavery or thievery.

You have not proven your point wrt property rights and you have not
usefully addressed why patent rights (a form of property) are so
productive in creating innovation!.

In fact the more you talk the less convinced I am of your apparent
point.

lol.

I threw you a big bone and you didn't take it! I pointed out that
patent rights have a limited duration and then they become public
domain. The reason that idea was adopted was because those who crafted
patent law wanted a continuous stream of innovation, not just a single
wave of innovation, and this provided it.

I can imagine that limited property rights would acheive the same
effect. With something starting out in private domain early in its
development, and then passing to public domain.

I can imagine that a whole social climate could evolve around it. Sort
of the way the Greeks used to vie against one another giving larger and
larger gifts to their cities. One would have bragging rights turning
over the biggest resource to the community! lol.

Your contention that gold no one knows about on property no one owns
belongs to everyone is stupid. As a practical matter if no one
benefits from a resource, it doesn't exist economically.

That's why you have to really stretch and backpedal and call names and
do all sorts of verbal tricks before you trot that one out without
puking! lol.

Fact is, if no one knows about a resource, or even suspects it, and no
one is motivated to go out and develop a new resource, then that
resource is not benefitting society. This is the situation wrt to
planetary development today. Off-world resources is merely a phrase
one might hear in a sci-fi movie! In part this is because ownership of
those resources is illegal. In part too because the technoloogy to
exploit those resources is strategically important and presently
classified.

This situation suits the US and others because the development of
off-world colonies that have nuclear and missile capabilties surpassing
those of the home-world isn't something they want to deal with
particularly.

Plainly people will develop a resource if there exists a clear benefit
to them. The papers I cited on private enterprise and private property
are germaine here. State owned enterprises, and public good are not as
efficient in marshalling needed resources to do economically useful
stuff - like develop property - as privately owned enterprises
operating on privately owned property are. This isn't some pretty
theory derived from some definition of rights. This is based on real
world experience comparing the economic efficiencies of the same people
before the fall of communism and after.

For fifty years we have had the capacity to make use of the resources
of our solar system to benefit humanity. For fifty years we have stood
idly by while the resources of our Earth have been depleted and no
alternative resource has been developed.

It is time we abandon the needless restrictions on ownership of
celestial bodies and open the worlds of our solar system to human
ownership, and human development. It is time we abandon our neeful
restrictions on classified technologies - both nuclear and missile -
and make them available, under regulations, to qualified users to use
in approved ways to develop a space faring capacity for our species. It
is time we grow up as nations and accept the risk of off-world colonies
and development, and get on with the continued progress of the human
race. To do otherwise is to guarantee our death as we fight ever more
difficult wars over an ever diminishing resource base.

.

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