Re: how to save the world from global warming


Global warming will be reversed but only if we can figure out how to
capture and make use of solar energy cheaply enough to compete in the
market with oil, and then use this new energy source to increase our
industrial system to include everyone on Earth while displacing oil
use. The resulting rising living standards along with rising technical
capacities will allow us to reverse all causes of global warming and
stabilize our environment for the long-term.

when dickhead? the solution needs to be started now
sea levels are already rising
there is a lag of at least 100 years in the hysteresis curve


Global warming is caused partly by rising CO2 levels that increase the
thickness of the blanketing gases in our atmosphere. We extract carbon
compounds from deep within the Earth - carbon which represents stored
solar energy over very long periods - and burn them, and the carbon
dioxide remains in the atmosphere, removed by natural processes that
can't keep up with the industrial processes pumping them out. By

CO2 concs were an order of magnitude higher in times past - where do you
think the fecundity that allowed the production of fossil fuel deposits
originated?
The big issues are loss of arable land and existing population centers in
the SHORT TERM
- over the next 100 - 1000 years
the CO2 itself shouldn't cause a thermal runaway ala venus unless plant
growth is prevented from taking advantage of the abundance of CO2.

which it probably won't since a certain overabundant species has destroyed a
lot of the forests that could actively sequester CO2 as cellulose...

capturing solar energy cheaply and on a large enough scale, and using
that energy to extract carbon-dioxide from the atmosphere and re-create
hydrocarbon fuels to sell, we can create an industrial process that
gives us control over the carbon-dioxide level of the atmosphere to
drive it wherever we need to have it.

nothing so far can beat photosynthesis in terms of a large scale process you
are talking about
unfortunately nothing so far can beat the large corporations in destroying
the largest utilisers of photosynthesis - the forests


Global warming is also caused by increasing luminosity of the Sun
itself. Hydrogen fuses into Helium at the Sun's center, and the
Helium, being heavier than Hydrogen, falls to the center and begins to
fuse into heavier elements as well. Since Helium fuses at a higher
temperature than Hydrogen, the Sun gets brighter and brighter. In 900
million years the Sun will be so bright, that if nothing is done, the
Earth will be uninhabitable. NASA scientists have proposed a solution
to this problem, use a series of specially constructed, tiny atomic
bombs set off in sequence so as to divert a large asteroid into an
orbit that swings by Earth and Jupiter every 3,000 years - the asteroid
is slowed by the Earth but the Earth is sped up slightly by the
asteroid - which kicks it into a slightly higher orbit. The asteroid
swings by Jupiter, which speeds up the asteroid, but slows Jupiter
slightly - restoring the kinetic energy given the Earth - in effect
taking it from Jupiter. Since Jupiter is 100,000s times larger than
the Earth, its orbit is barely affected, but over three billion years,
the Earth is kicked into higher orbits, so that its temperature remains
constant, despite the increasing luminosity of the Sun. The
interesting part about this is that we will have stabilized the Earth's
environment for nearly 3 billion more years - and once the orbital
parameters are set up, the whole system need not be tampered with. So,
its something we can leave to posterity even if we're not around to
tend to it!

what a load of *** - it is the next 90 years you need to worry about!
the life cycle of a main sequence g type dwarf is irrelevant to this
discussion


The GAIA principle says that life responds to challenges the
environment throws at it. Well, in respnose to the increasing
luminosity of the sun, life created photosynthesis which took CO2 out
of the air and created carbon compounds with it. Then geology took
that carbon and sequestered it in pools of liquid hydrocarbons deep
within the Earth. This moderated the rising temperature by reducing
CO2 levels. Rising oxygen levels gave rise to animals, and animals
gave rise to intelligence, and intelligence made use of stored energy
to drive the first generation of industrial development for Earth. The
resulting industrial intelligence observed its effect on the
environment the release of carbon stores had as well as the fact that
the Sun is getting brighter, and devised a means to preserve life well
beyond the 900 million years left to us naturally. Sweet.


life only exploits niches

blah blah blah

instead of regurgitating a text book, why not suggest more concrete methods,
even if they are nutty
I have thrown out some proposals - you have just shot regurgitated *** out
of a textbook.
Come up with an original thought, or *** off.


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