Re: Electrogravitics is Reality!


William.Mook@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
Back in 1995 I designed a TSTO-RLV whose first stage was propelled by a
SSME and four RL10 engines. The second stage was propelled by four RL10
engines, and a smaller engine set modified from an existing ACS rocket
set. Both stages would enter ballistically - the system looked like a
narrow cone with a cylinder and cone on the top - a two stage version
of DCX - which it operated much like. Bill Gaubatz's DCX program was
AFTER mine, and the upper stage of my GREENSPACE project looked
suspiciously like DCX test vehicle. I asked Martin Marietta and others
to quote on this program. I went to Bill Gates and Craig McCaw and
asked them for $30 million per Teledesic satellite when I had a
vehicle. They wanted to see it fly first. The vehicle would put 9
tonnes into LEO for less than $5 million.

Back in 1998, well before the Soyuz based tourist flights, I spoke with
GKNPT Khrunichev, Lockheed and ILS about using the Proton, Soyuz, and
Atlas launched payloads simultaneously or nearly so, into a LEO within
the plane of the moon's orbit. The lunar stage, the piloted stage, and
the lunar lander stage, all meet on orbit, and fly to the moon. I've
gotten preliminary numbers and schedules from each vendor, and
developed a game plan where 4 people pay $85 million each to fly to the
moon and return to Earth. We needed 16 people to prepay $85 million
each - paid into a trust fund operated by a major brokerage house who
would manage the money while in escrow. The tour buyers get the
interest until all 16 people have paid in. They can withdraw after 5
years if we don't meet escrow conditions. Once we have $1,36 billion
in escrow,we start getting the interest from the account. The interest
money is used to refine the design and put together a final plan. Once
the plan is approved,the $1.36 billion gets spent to build a fleet of
payloads and buy the 12 launchers needed. Owners of tickets have a
right to resell them. This is likely to benefit the first returnees to
the moon. Four flights will occur in all, The first flight has the
potential to do a lot of firsts, so the tickets are likely to increase
in value as we get closer to the launch date. One buyer appeared, and
we ended up returning him his money.

Today I've asked folks to look at a TSTO-RLV based on the old siamese
twin concept. I've been asked for $150,000 to do a study, I'm thinking
about funding it. Two lifting body shapes back to back, one propelled
by a RD-120 rocket engine, the other propelled by a RL10 rocket engine
- putting 900 kg into LEO - fully reusable. This program will cost
$240 million to build a fleet.


I am genuinely impressed by your 'apparent' credentials and experience.
But you must remember that I, just the same as you, have no way of
verifying your experinece/background. You could be a fake/ruse simply
'making things up' to impress others on the Usenet. All posters suffer
from this. The Usenet is public, hence the use of 'handles', fake
names, and such. Experience/knowledge of any poster is a real
'unknown'.

Where do I place you at present based on a lack of any real information
about you? William Mook appears to be technically knowledgeable. He
'claims' to have upper level aerospace experience which could be ruse.
He appears moderately hostile to my posts based on a lack of some of
the knowledge/background I KNOW to be fact. At one point he appeared
to be simply 'debunking'. Now he seems to be feeling me out about some
technical issues. I regard this as heartening given the 'blind'
environment of the Usenet.

On the Usenet it does no good to even mention credentials because no
one believes them. I have mentioned that I flew military aircraft, but
it does no good because everyone assumes I only flew in imaginary
airplanes and am probably sitting in a rubber room.

So, what to do in such a 'blind' environment? Well, I look carefully
for facts, brilliance, gems of ideas, and scrape away politics, smart
remarks, foul language, and the like.

What I am cautioning you, William Mook, is not to judge other posters
too harshly in such a 'blind' environment. You can't do 'appeal to
authority' on the Usenet. Either claiming to be an authority or
thinking that someone else either is or isn't. You have to judge the
words themselves for content and accuracy, not the poster who remains
an enigma, the poster seen only on a phosphor screen in what could be
ruse/sting images.

Maybe it is because they have
never personally witnessed hypersonic flight or the Earth at 300,000+
feet.

No, its because those who are responsible for publicly owned companies
can't be swayed by such considerations. Its up to space engineers to
come up with plans that sober sane people CAN fund and have a good shot
at making a profit on. That's why you have people with vast personal
fortunes funding things like SpaceShip One or the X-Prize.

But you talk as if you have personally experienced such flight. Have
you? lol. Then why is the USAF planning a TEST FLIGHT of HTV-1 in
2007? Note the number - HTV - one - the first one.


I once offered with a resume to 'talk' to companies in a certified Top
Secret cleared situation about technical facts that could have pushed
those companies ahead 50 years in a couple of hours. No takers. I
asked only that my costs be covered. I was offering a freebe! They
would, of course, have to be American Companies that possess fully
cleared individuals.

I have since discovered that most aerospace companies have very few
engineers cleared for that level of access. Also, credibility is
always a problem because credentials can be faked, even identities can
be faked. Fakes are so good today that many corporations don't even do
'real' employment checks at all. To some extent, the real world out
there has some of the Usenet problem.

And, by the way, Foreign Intelligence is going 'wild' on us because of
our industrial lack of clearance/employment checks. And, yes, I am
sure some checking is done. But it is negligible. Today, a Body
Duplicate can penetrate nearly any U.S. military/research/industrial
organization because our general security is not up to date. DNA
checks must be done constantly, at time of birth, time of employment,
and yearly, even monthly checks in some instances, thereafter.

Fingerprint checks, retina scans, access cards, personal recognition,
et. al. are utterly worthless.


tomcat

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