Re: Burt Rutans plans for a manned mission to Mars



Fred J. McCall wrote:

:> :Fred J. McCall wrote:
:> :
:> :> :> Think about it. You have a $5 million government grant for research.
:> :> :> Are you going to blow $20k of it to send up a grad student with your
:> :> :> experiment or are you going to just send the experiment. Either have
:> :> :> someone already up there do it for you or else spend another $5k to
:> :> :> make it automatic so it 'does itself' and sends you the results.
:> :> :
:> :> :How do you know it's only "another $5K" to do, with any assurance as to :> :> :reliability of such automation, when you know nothing of the nature of :> :> :the experiment?
:> :> :> :> How do you know it isn't
:> :
:> :I don't know. I wasn't the one making the claim. Why can't you answer :> :the question?
:> :> Why can't you, Rand?
:
:Once again, you evade the point. It's obvious why, and I suspect all :can see that.

Once again, you evade the point. It's obvious why, and I suspect all
can see that.

Sorry, that one only works in the schoolyard as well.

:I have made no claim in this matter, and hence have no need to support :said claim, and hence have done no analysis, lacking such need. "So's :your mother" works on the schoolground, sometimes, but not in a sci.* :newsgroup.

So why are you trying it?

I am not.

If you disagree, support your argument.
Current hardware prices do a pretty good job of supporting mine.

Ever heard of software? And what hardware are you referring to?

:You made a claim that it can be done for $5K. Back it up with data and :math, or admit the obvious--that you pulled it out of your ass at the :spur of the moment.

Engage your brain, Rand. How much does a microprocessor and some
sensors cost? How much mass do you have to put aloft to put up a grad
student with life support (who still needs some sensors to tell what's
going on)?

Still waiting for an argument to support your claim, and laughing at the contention that it's my responsibility to refute it, rather than yours to support it. You pulled a ludicrous number out of your ass when you didn't even know the nature of the experiment, or the requirements.

We continue to await substantiation for your bold statement. I suspect we will wait in vain.
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