Re: Solar Shell


Williamknowsbest wrote:
scottlowtherAT@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
jsavard@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

This is still an incredibly vast undertaking, for the far distant
future, but at least it doesn't involve re-engineering the Sun.


The biggest problem with imagining far-future giga-engineering projects
is that far too often they seem to require a utopian fascism that
completely controls all sentient life. By the time mankind figures out
how to dial down the sun so that it'll last ten trillion years, we'll
also have figured out how to make the thing blow up on command. War
will make many of these projects moot.

I envision this being done by an individual in their lifetime, not all
of humanity for aeons.

What, blowing up the sun? That's one of those "you only get to do it
once" things.



The amazing thing as I think about this is that this project might be
capable of just that.

All that's needed is a chemical laser, intelilgently designed, and
dropped into the sun with a structured fabric floating in the sunlight
above. Something on the scale of say a latter day clementine mission.

Sure. Why not.

What rights do they have over their creation?

"In the Necromonger faith, you keep what you kill."


Success along the lines I envision totally outclasses anything else
humanity could do prior to success. And very quickly too. The ability
to eject from the sun in a controlled way, planetary system sized
masses of raw material and shape and form them into operating finished
products by scattering structured photons off them - is just
mind-boggling.

Indeed. And imagine the fun one could have hacking into the control
computers and making the system go nova rather than just calving off
calmly.

Long time ago we had Right of Conquest. The right of conquest is the
purported right of a conqueror to territory taken by force of arms.

We still have that right.


Today we recognize the Right of Patent. If someone creates or
discovers a process - they have something they have rights to use it to
make money and attain power.

Until the Democrats gain full power. Then "make money" will be banned
as being antisocial and against the Public Good.Then the Equalization
of Opportunity Bill will be passed.



That is, a person who created this shell in the way I envision would
have power over all of humanity, no matter how uninterested s/he was in
the matter.Earth would demand the person that controlled this
technology would be the Lord Protector of Earth and stand in regent ot
the rest of humanity - to put it in more ancient terms.


Amazing lack of understanding of human nature, you're displaying. If
someone unveils the power to destroy the world, or build vast new ones,
the demand won't be that this someone become a benevolent dictator. It
will be that he turn over that power to some Respected Authority. The
UN or some such. Alternatively, that he should "turn the power over to
*me.*" Or that the power should be abandoned entirely.

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