Re: Satellite defense


Fred J. McCall wrote:
"Eric Chomko" <pne.chomko@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

:
:Fred J. McCall wrote:
:> "Eric Chomko" <pne.chomko@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
:>
:> :On Jan 31, 9:31 pm, Fred J. McCall <fmcc...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
:> :> "Eric Chomko" <pne.cho...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
:> :>
:> :> :On Jan 30, 10:00 pm, Fred J. McCall <fmcc...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
:> :> :> "Eric Chomko" <pne.cho...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
:> :> :>
:> :> :> :On Jan 30, 4:46 pm, simberg.interglo...@xxxxxxxxx (Rand Simberg)
:> :> :> :wrote:
:> :> :> :> On 30 Jan 2007 13:37:12 -0800, in a place far, far away, "Eric Chomko"
:> :> :> :> <pne.cho...@xxxxxxxxxxx> made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such
:> :> :> :> a way as to indicate that:
:> :> :> :>
:> :> :> :> >P.S. I have often worried about having to face Europe and the EU in
:> :> :> :> >another WW, thinking that odds are against us.
:> :> :> :>
:> :> :> :> If this were from a non-idiot, I'd think it was a joke.
:> :> :> :
:> :> :> :What the hell do you think would happen if the dollar lost it's
:> :> :> :hegemony status in the world?
:> :> :>
:> :> :> What do YOU think would happen? We'd declare war on Europe?
:> :> :
:> :> :Only if the euro took over the dollar on the world stage.
:> :>
:> :> So you think that if the Euro ever became the default reserve currency
:> :> in the world we'd declare war on Europe.
:> :
:> :We'd be forced to, ...
:>
:> Horse manure.
:>
:> :... especially if petroeuro took over petrodollar. It
:> :would be all covert and all. Check the US stance right now of Iran
:> :trying to cushy up to European countries to have them buy Iranian
:> :oil.
:>
:> And will we get an actual cite out of Eric *THIS* time, or will he
:> once again just act as if his delusions are real?
:
:"Drugs, Oil and War", Peter Dale Scott, 2003.

I hadn't realized that some minor author writing niche books several
years ago was the definer of "the US stance right now".


Minor author? So you are familar with Scott? What do you know about
him? I know he is an impeccable researcher. His book, "Deep Politics
and the Death of JFK" is a classic. He is an author with over four
decades of experience and no one as ever been able to dispute his
research. He has a book coming out this year. So much for your "right
now" claim.

Do you not know what I cite is, or is it that you don't know what you
say?

Why don't you tell me what you cite? I know what I say. Why not
explain what you say?

:>
:> :>
:> :> Ok, more evidence that Eric Chomko is an absolute loon.
:> :
:> :Ad hominem. Low for you Freddy, as I expect it from Rand. Now you.
:> :Fascists of a feather and all that.
:>
:> Well, we've already seen that you don't know what 'fascist' means.
:
:No, I didn't know what your meaning of the word meant. Webster and I
:were always on the same page.

Revisionist twaddle.

The dictionary, revisionist twaddle? Yes, the world according to Fred
J. McCall: Webster is not to be believed.


:>
:> :And you'd better hope that I'm not a loon when I say I think we'd win
:> :that war.
:>
:> No, I'm merely sure you're a loon when you claim that there would BE
:> 'that war'.
:
:I sure hope it doesn't happen.
:
:>
:> :Or do you have a tory side like the Bushes and would simply
:> :turncoat yourself back to Europe?
:>
:> Yeah, you'd never put words in someone's mouth or engage in ad
:> hominem, would you, Eric?
:
:I asked a question.

No, you uttered a lie and then wrapped a strawman question around it.

Says you. Communication is two-way, Fred. Perhaps you need work on
your end?

:> I won't call you a fascist, though. You're just a lying idiot.
:
:More lost power on your part. Everytime you call me a liar and stupid,
:you shrink.

Poor Eric. He thinks this sort of sophomoric twaddle will actually
work.

Work? It isn't about work, but what is. With all your grand experience
you miss the human element.

You're still a stupid liar, Eric. You will continue to be so until
you decide to change.

To fit your qualifications of approval? Fat chance, Freddy. Go tell
that to your son and see if it works.

:> :Do your handlers know how much of a twit you are on the net?
:>
:> What 'handlers' would those be, Eric? Unlike you and other zoo
:> animals, I don't require 'handlers'.
:
:The ones that certified you as "sane". Those handlers.

Poor Eric. I guess zoo animals don't know the difference between
'handler' and 'doctor'.

So your handlers are doctors? Poor Freddy doesn't see himself as the
test subject (aka guinea pig).

:> :>
:> :> :What do you
:> :> :think we'd do Freddy? Try and win back top status in the UN?
:> :>
:> :> No, I think life would go on pretty much like it is now.
:> :
:> :So every country that buys oil through OPEC no longer as reserve
:> :dollars for oil purchases because it is all done in euros (reserve)
:> :and it is business as usual?
:>
:> Pretty much.
:
:And you claim to have a an econ degree?! Get your moey back!!

Why? So far, all I've seen is idiotic remarks on your part.

Leaving aside your paranoid delusions for a moment, just what magical
thing do you think would happen if oil was purchased in euros that
would force the United States to declare war on Europe?

It has to do with hegemony and reserves other countries maintain in
order to buy oil. A glut of dollars going nowhere (devaluation) in
lieu of euros to purchase oil would force the US to change. Perhaps we
could/would change? Find a new source of energy and compete at that
level. Short of that we'd have to sure up our war machine and revert
the world back to the dollar standard. (hegemony). Maybe we'd still
have the drug markets, though.

:> :One wonders how much LSD you took in the 60s, as I think you're having
:> :another flashback.
:>
:> One wonders when you'll stop snorting your own feces, as the practice
:> has obviously led to considerable brain damage.
:>
:> :>
:> :> :>
:> :> :> Rand is wrong. You're not just an idiot. You're actively insane.
:> :> :
:> :> :Nice ploy, Freddy. Forget your words, but notice the passion. I have
:> :> :you and you know it.
:> :>
:> :> By all means, elucidate about how you 'have me'.
:> :
:> :Every post and by the balls...
:>
:> Poor Eric doesn't even know the difference between 'how' and 'when'.
:>
:> Poor deluded boy...
:>
:> :> While you're at it,
:> :> you can explain the UK's attack on us when the dollar took over from
:> :> the pound.
:> :
:> :Easy. We had already whipped them twice, 1783 and 1812, so they were
:> :in no mood for a third whipping when we took over top status. "If you
:> :can't beat then join then". They did.
:>
:> You're nuts. You also immediately contradict yourself with...
:>
:> :And the UK would be the first to join up with the EU, not as a member
:> :per se but as an ally, if the term petroeuro took over petrodollar.
:
:How is stating what would happen in the 21st century contradictory to
:what happened in the 19th or 20th century? People flip sides all the
:time. Look at us and the UK. Germany after WWII, etc.

Let me try and make it simple enough so that even you get it. Your
excuse for why the UK didn't declare war on the United States when the
dollar overtook the pound as the default 'reserve' currency is "they
were in no mood for a third whipping when we took over top status".

Yep. When was that Freddy? When did US $'s replace British pounds
sterling?

You immediately follow that with "the UK would be the first to join up
with the EU, not as a member per se but as an ally, if the term
petroeuro took over petrodollar".

Yep. The UK has the advantage of not being $-based nor euro-based, so
if an economic conflict occurred the UK could simply align itself with
the victor. Nice safe place.

You don't see the contradiction there?

If the petrodollar was NOT replaced with petroeuro, then the UK stays
pat, aligned with us as they have been. What part don't you get,
Freddy?

Oh, and just by the way, the UK ***IS ALREADY A MEMBER OF THE EU***.

Okay, okay, cripes, eurozone. Is the UK part of the eurozone?

I guess that sort of obviates your "join up with the EU, not as a member
per se", since they've BEEN a member for years.

If petrodollar is replaced with petroeuro, then the UK will drop
pounds and adopt the euro. My prediction.

:> :> :> :Do you really think anyone thought in 1920 that we'd be at war with
:> :> :> :German again in less than 25 years?
:> :> :>
:> :> :> What does what people did or did not think in 1920 have to do with
:> :> :> anything?
:> :> :
:> :> :The fact that no one predicted WWII with Germany after WWI. Please try
:> :> :and keep up...
:> :>
:> :> Let me try again.
:> :
:> :Please do...
:> :
:> :> WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING?
:> :
:> :In the context that consumers of OPEC oil no longer have to have
:> :reserve dollars to buy oil, EVERYTHING! And if we had to change
:> :dollars into euros to buy oil? Hell, that is a better incentive than
:> :what Al Gore suggested to force us to look for new forms of energy.
:>
:> Try again. One more time...
:
:Nice try. Won't work this time. Spin your own wheels.

In other words, you've recognized that you'll never get it because of
your own mental defects.

No, you refuse to listen.


:
:> WHAT DOES THE FACT THAT NO ONE PREDICTED WWII WITH GERMANY AFTER WWI
:> HAVE TO DO WITH OPEC, OIL, DOLLARS, OR EUROS IN THIS CONTEXT?
:
:No more worldwide dollar reserves. Euro reserves. What does that mean
:Freddy?

It means you're delusional. What do you think it 'means', Eric?

It means that more than 13 countries would be part of the eurozone,
including the UK.

:> JESUS, are you stupid!
:
:Apparently smarter than you.

Not so anyone could notice it.

:You are aware that the dollar is used for
:all oil purchases right?

You've tried to beat this drum before. It doesn't mean anything.

It is the truth! Read: http://socrates.berkeley.edu/~pdscott/iraq.html

:It isn't out of convenience, Freddy.

It isn't out of some half-vast conspiracy that you're demented enough
to believe, either.

:> :> Perhaps the uppercase will help you understand the question...
:> :
:> :Math, Economic and CS degrees and you type *** like this...
:>
:> Claims to three degrees and you demonstrate stupidity like this...
:
:Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

In your case, it's more 'flatulence' than 'flattery'.

Yes, you are the fart that does not stop stinking...

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"His golf bag does not contain a full set of irons."
-- Robin Williams

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